Coyote, Hellcat, Coyote(2), Torino, & turbo-coyote(3) vs. 93 GT

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A few days after my last thread about the 500rwhp blown '08 I ran with, I went to a local gathering where a guy in a '15 started chatting me up. To be honest, when he first asked to race, I thought he was stock, and I really didn't care for the risk for an obvious outcome. I figured maybe he'd heard about the race with the '08, because he brought Ozzy up. When he said he'd already outrun Ozzy, I was intrigued. So, I agreed and we went out to a nearby highway. He was on street tires. From a 40 roll, he got pretty sideways and had to let out. I was, at that point, nearly certain he was actually not as fast as Ozzy had been, and gave him the jump in the 2nd and 3rd races. In all of them, on low boost, I stopped his pull and went by him almost immediately after he jumped. Friends tell me that he's done bolt-ons and E85 and makes ~460 rwhp. Later, Ozzy confirmed that he'd been beaten by the guy, but also said he'd had a significant vacuum/boost leak that he'd since repaired. I believe Ozzy as my races with him were much closer.

Afterwards, I met a friend named Lance at a little minor car show and he showed up in his Hellcat Challenger on slicks. Now, I've been interested in racing a Hellcat ever since Ozzy said he'd run door to door with one. Lance was on slicks, and I had little doubt he'd take me from a dig. I was more interested in how the cars compared in power/weight and asked if he'd come out to the highway. He agreed and when we got there, we lined up from a 40mph roll. I brake boosted at low boost 5-6 psi. I could not hear him honk it off, and he got a massive jump. However, it would not have mattered. He pulled me hard, and as the race went on, he kept pulling harder. This pretty well showed me that even though I'd though low boost would be enough to run with a Hellcat or ZL1, like Ozzy's car had, I was dead wrong. I tried again, hoping to get a better launch and to powershift, but the results were nearly identical. The third time I upped the boost to 8psi and brake boosted so hard that the fronts locked up and the rears were pushing the car at 40! Holy hell... first time that's happened. So, I lightened up on the brakes and throttle and once again failed to hear him honk it off. He killed it on the launch, but did not continue to accelerate thereafter. It was just a slow, gradual pull from that point on out. I wasn't sure how it would have gone with an equal launch. For the next race, I felt like I needed to turn things around or he'd be done playing with my car. So, I bumped the boost yet again to 10-11 psi. This time I honked it off. The start was a pretty good one. We both launched nearly simultaneously. The rears rolled over and my tail drifted to the right so far that I was at the brink of letting out. But, it started coming back together and I was able to keep it matted through 2nd. The hellcat was out by about 1 1/2 cars, and in third I'd run the Cat down, pulling a fender as I powershifted into 4th. Traction no longer an issue, I pulled 2-3 cars and shut down. Suddenly, the tables had turned and he wanted to go again, this time from a ~65 mph roll. This time, traction was no issue, and from start to finish, the old blue foxbody pulled out and walked away from the Hellcat. Lance and I parted company but chatted with each other on the phone where I came clean about bumping the boost up on him. He was cool about it, congratulating me and saying that he'd trapped 124mph and that I should trap well when I get it out to a track.

That came just 2 days later at the Sacramento Fast Fords and Muscle Mustangs event. There were a ton of beautiful Mustangs, lightnings, and old school ford muscle there. I was fortunate that after a couple warm up runs on low boost, I bumped it up to 8psi and got to line up with a Green Ford Torino that was camming hard and looked beautiful! I came off of the tree with a 0.03 reaction time (adjusted for the 0.5 minimum reaction time) and he came out with a 0.23 tree. But, by the 60', he was already ahead. I'd only managed a measly 2.04 while he went 1.60! He was pulling pretty nicely while I spun through 1st, powershifted and planted 2nd. It was a pretty nice feeling to finally plant 2nd gear, but it wasn't enough. The Torino continued to walk out on me. He was around 2-3 cars ahead when I slammed 3rd somewhere just shy of the 1/8 mile marker, and finally started to reel him in. He beat me through the 1/8, but by the top of third, I was really running him down. It was going to be tight to the finish. I slammed 4th and got a bit of a disconcerting pop from the exhaust between gears, but the power was right there by the time the clutch was out and right at the finish, I blew past him. I'd ended up trapping a whopping 10mph faster than the Torino, but only ET'd 0.05 seconds ahead. It was pretty cool to have a double pass during a race and end up so close at the finish. Props to that old school muscle for really wringing everything out of the power he'd had.

Finally, it was the last run of the day, and I wanted to see how it would do on the 3rd boost setting, which is the most I've run on the street to this point. I ended up lining up with a black coyote that was probably a 13-14 body. I really was more focused on setting up to datalog and to get a good burnout, but I honestly didn't expect much from this car. I haphazardly dismissed him, even though I noticed the slicks. It, otherwise, looked pretty stock. I treed him by 6 tenths of a second! This is going to be easy peasy! Whoops! When he came by me at around 330', he was at warp speed. It was my quickest and fastest run of the day by a long shot, and though I spun first, I planted 2nd, and I expected to start reeling him in.... Nope! That badass coyote just pulled harder and harder. He got me by about 4 tenths through the 1/4 and ended up trapping almost 140mph! Damn stock looking Coyotes can be monsters! :D

All in all, I'm ecstatic with this little fox that has been "tuned" for lack of a better term by yours truly, a complete novice. I'm hoping to put it on a dyno and get timing where it should be soon.

ps. there were a couple other races not worth details about including a stockish gen2 lightning, and a fully built drag car on a pro tree that went deep into the 9s that I was no match for. I also forgot to pull the 2nd coyote from the title, sorry. While I thought he was a bolt-on 150-shot coyote, he turned out to be a lot closer to stock and was not much of a race.
 
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The first pic is an old money shot. The 2nd Picture was about 2 months ago. Last pic is just the engine bay.

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Wow that’s sexy...and a color combo you don’t see too often! Love the LX tails. Why no pics of the opposition? I’d love to see that Torino. Was Eastwood driving it?
 

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Dead forum is dead! Not a single post on here in 5 days. They should really let us post videos of our street races here to revive the damn thing.
 

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I've got enough stories from the last few years that I could jam this subforum full, but in an environment where a "smackdown" mentality is not only allowed but also sponsored and while so many inexperienced "racers" can't see past a HP number, I just don't have the energy nor the inclination to do so. Having a "donut store" directly next door doesn't inspire confidence in me either.
 

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Yes, it was Joe Navarro's, aka GroverDill, and unintentionally I picked it up exactly on his anniversary in January. I think he'd had it for 22 (?) years. He was just ready to move on, and when he asked me to help him price it, I did him one better and made him a solid offer that he accepted after thinking about it for a couple of hours. Joe's a good man who did a magnificent job with this car, and I will give my best to live up to the way he took care of it for so long.

One nice thing about it is that it's very very similar to my own car build of 14 years. Same heads, similar cam, same size turbo, same injectors, basically the same fuel pump, same computer, both T56s, etc... So, I've got a pretty good handle on everything and adjusted the tune from E85 back to 91 pump over the last several months.
 

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I forgot this even existed. This is the Coyote I didn't tell the story about in the first post. The '14-'15 GT was one of about 4 or 5 cars that showed up to race against a group of guys, including me. They thought the fastest guy in our group was Ozzy in his Twin-screw '08 GT and lined him up against their fastest, a 1LE newish Camaro with some bolt-ons, I guess. Ozzy took him out, but it was a close race.

Since my car looks so stock, they asked if I'd line up against this 2014-2015 Mustang GT. I knew nothing about it and didn't ask since I figured they would underrate my stock looking Mustang which is a sleeper when it's not running, but my passenger who took the video said that it was a bolt-on GT on E85 with a 150 shot of nitrous. So, I set the boost up to around 10 psi to give myself a chance. He was wrong, though. The Coyote was not spraying. So, it was a bit of puppy kicking, which is why I didn't really go into detail in the initial post. We figure he was really making in the 450-480 range. Nevertheless, here's the vid:

 

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