And people wonder why road rage is a thing. There are actually idiots that don't understand that when you're in the left lane, it doesn't matter how fast you're going, if someone comes up behind you going faster, you GET THE **** OVER!
Do tickets deter bad driving?
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That’s correct. It was a comment on someone tailgating me well above the speed limit without getting into details.
It got morphed into lane and driving habits of what I should have done based on the lack of details and incorrect assumptions.
I noticed the link you sent shows states have little or “weak” laws (Ohio) on left lane passing.
Without reading other state laws on left lane travel or passing,,,,I’ll assume correct use of the left lane to pass someone in a safe and clear manner or in the event that a vehicle is pulled off on the right side of the road ( such as an emergency vehicle) and reduce your speed would most likely be acceptable in most states.
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Since i cant afford to just up ass the money. Yes tickets do deter me from driving like a dummy. A 150$ ticket may not be much to some, but to those of us that live on a budget it is a big deal. I would have to sit that out in jail.
I would say no. Idiots and criminals will break the law if they want to regardless which is what makes them idiots and criminals. Minor offenses like a ticket most people don't even think twice about it.
Examples.
My buddy was a deputy prosecutor (now magistrate). He told me of a guy that went to the same Wal-Mart and was caught 5 times in about a year stealing Rogaine. He was known by the employees and cops and they would literally follow him and watch him attempt to steal the product and then have him arrested. My buddy asked him why he kept doing it and he didn't have an answer. My buddy being a smart ass told him to quit wasting his time stealing it because the product clearly wasn't working...
I have seen a guy in a newer Porsche 911 Turbo pulled over at least 4 times in 2 months on my commute to and from work. I've seen him a few times just driving on the road, not pulled over, and he drives like an absolute asshole. Swerving in and out of lanes, going 20+ over the speedlimit, tailgating, you name it. Every time I've seen him that is how he is driving. Clearly he has money or a buddy in the courts that is getting him out of the tickets because it doesn't see possible that he still has a license.
Examples.
My buddy was a deputy prosecutor (now magistrate). He told me of a guy that went to the same Wal-Mart and was caught 5 times in about a year stealing Rogaine. He was known by the employees and cops and they would literally follow him and watch him attempt to steal the product and then have him arrested. My buddy asked him why he kept doing it and he didn't have an answer. My buddy being a smart ass told him to quit wasting his time stealing it because the product clearly wasn't working...
I have seen a guy in a newer Porsche 911 Turbo pulled over at least 4 times in 2 months on my commute to and from work. I've seen him a few times just driving on the road, not pulled over, and he drives like an absolute asshole. Swerving in and out of lanes, going 20+ over the speedlimit, tailgating, you name it. Every time I've seen him that is how he is driving. Clearly he has money or a buddy in the courts that is getting him out of the tickets because it doesn't see possible that he still has a license.
Over the past ten years, I've traveled to Germany five times and navigated the Autobahn multiple times. World wide, I think the German drivers are, by far, the best trained. In reference to passing while using the left lane to do so, here is the way the German's do it: If you are in the far right lane and approaching a slower moving vehicle, you check your rear and side view mirrors for a faster moving car approaching in the left lane. It's a "speed judgement" call whether you can signal, swing out, pass the slower car and get back over without causing the left lane approaching car to have to hit his brakes. The Germans are pretty adept at doing this. In the USA that is not the case. In Germany there are times when trucks will pass another truck and sometimes will cause a left lane vehicle to slow to allow the truck to get back over, but it's not the norm. Not all of the Autobahn system is "no speed limit". The majority has speed limits. In the USA it's a whole different game. Poorly trained and self absorbed drivers seem to be the standard fare. Some States have a sign saying "keep right except to pass" unfortunately, its ignored and probably rarely enforced.
It's not the tickets they're worried about. It's the increased insurance premiums. If all I had to do was pay a fine and be done with it after getting a speeding ticket, I wouldn't care one bit.
I was just thinking the other day that, if I was a politician, I'd try to outlaw traffic cops skulking around behind billboards and trees trying to catch speeders. I'd make it so they'd have to be actually patrolling the roads in plain site and moving with traffic. I've never once seen a cop pull over a tailgater, lane hog, or snail driver. The only traffic violations they go after are speeders.
Wouldn’t marked patrol cars in moving traffic just make the motorists around the cops drive how they should for that short period. Once the cop is out of sight everyone would drive like they’re in Mexico, especially if you know they would never hide. Would people drive more cautiously if cops were in unmarked cars? You wouldn’t know if one was around you.
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Well in Ohio you have to have clearly marked cars be able to read and see the departments name 50 feet away in order to enforce traffic laws in the state. So unmarked is a no go for this state and also Georgia has a similar law.
People in GA turn into absolute idiots when they are around a cop on the highway. Regardless of what lane the cop is in, the front runner in every lane go the same speed or just slower than the cop. Then finally, some hero finds a way around to show everyone else that it is okay to pass a cop at a reasonable speed...
I'm really trying to figure out how yall are giving @Ohio Snake grief about what he said. He's 100% right in what he's saying. If there are three cars in the middle lane going 65 and he goes into the left lane to pass the three cars he should only move back into the middle lane after passing the third slower moving car. If a faster driver happens to come up behind him while he's passes slower moving traffic they will have to wait til he can safely move to the middle lane, squeezing between two slow moving vehicles isn't safe, period.
I agree with you. The different driving styles and mentalities really clash on this. I, too, get irritated when a semi truck or other vehicle is in the fast lane passing a slower vehicle at .05 miles per hour, but they are passing. Also, I shouldn’t tailgate the vehicle in front of me in the situation.
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HA come to Illinois, it's insane, the crappy roads, the nut cases, the traffic. Hell I telecommute 80% of the time and when I drive in early morning traffic I dread it because people are ****ing retarded. I some times wonder how half the people here have jobs let alone make it to work on a daily basis
I think the heartburn is that Ohio Snake feels that, if a faster car comes up behind him while he's passing, he doesn't have to speed up his passing maneuver to get out of the faster driver's way. I don't think anybody was suggesting that he dip back in between slower moving cars so the other guy can get by. As far as his heartburn with being tailgated while there are cars in front of him, that is the unwritten rule of the road. People bunch up close behind the jughead holding up traffic in hopes that they'll look in the rear view and see the road train their pulling and get the hell out of the way. If everybody keeps a "comfortable" following distance, the lane hog would remain oblivious to the fact that people want to get by. Now, if Ohio Snake is leaving 10 car lengths between him and the cars in front of him that are also passing, that's another story.
The State feels making the cars visible as opposed to unmarked is deterrent for speeders. interestingly, I believe Ohio is the ticket issuing happiest state in the Union. I think Ohio issues more tickets than California and Fl. No wonder the troopers have the newest cars.
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You are partly correct. If I’m passing but doing slower than traffic moving up on me in the fast lane, I will speed up to a comfortable speed (may be 80mph in Ohio temporarily) move back over to the middle lane ASAP.
If people are in front of me while passing, there is not much you can do and I don’t tailgate those in front of me
What really got to me was I made a very generalized statement about a person tailgating me well above the limit without giving any additional details. The thread was not about my lane passing etiquette or the me knowing the laws each state has for passing a motorist.
Unfortunately, assumptions were made that if I was being tailgated, I must be doing something wrong or I must have jumped out in front of someone to enforce traffic speed. The crazy assumptions then led to what I should and should not do when passing. When I detailed the entire incident.....it went crickets.
I’ve been driving long enough , I am sure I can get through any state ( with or without left lane passing laws) without incident or being an instigator. BTW, people don’t tailgate when Im driving RV up a long climb when passing a truck ( if permitted). I guess the size is intimidating
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Been Illinois and your right..they are crappy as well...may be worse than Ohio. WV has the crappiest in my opinion.
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It’s crickets because you’re in the wrong. People like you are why I-35 between SA and Austin is so ****ed up. You think that the speed limit you give yourself is “fast enough” and damn the ones going faster. Not only are you an inattentive driver but also a shitty one if you can’t seamlessly slide in between 2 cars (with 2 or 3 car lengths between them) going 65 from 75.You are partly correct. If I’m passing but doing slower than traffic moving up on me in the fast lane, I will speed up to a comfortable speed (may be 80mph in Ohio temporarily) move back over to the middle lane ASAP.
If people are in front of me while passing, there is not much you can do and I don’t tailgate those in front of me
What really got to me was I made a very generalized statement about a person tailgating me well above the limit without giving any additional details. The thread was not about my lane passing etiquette or the me knowing the laws each state has for passing a motorist.
Unfortunately, assumptions were made that if I was being tailgated, I must be doing something wrong or I must have jumped out in front of someone to enforce traffic speed. The crazy assumptions then led to what I should and should not do when passing. When I detailed the entire incident.....it went crickets.
I’ve been driving long enough , I am sure I can get through any state ( with or without left lane passing laws) without incident or being an instigator. BTW, people don’t tailgate when Im driving RV up a long climb when passing a truck ( if permitted). I guess the size is intimidating
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You are partly correct. If I’m passing but doing slower than traffic moving up on me in the fast lane, I will speed up to a comfortable speed (may be 80mph in Ohio temporarily) move back over to the middle lane ASAP.
If people are in front of me while passing, there is not much you can do and I don’t tailgate those in front of me
What really got to me was I made a very generalized statement about a person tailgating me well above the limit without giving any additional details. The thread was not about my lane passing etiquette or the me knowing the laws each state has for passing a motorist.
Unfortunately, assumptions were made that if I was being tailgated, I must be doing something wrong or I must have jumped out in front of someone to enforce traffic speed. The crazy assumptions then led to what I should and should not do when passing. When I detailed the entire incident.....it went crickets.
I’ve been driving long enough , I am sure I can get through any state ( with or without left lane passing laws) without incident or being an instigator. BTW, people don’t tailgate when Im driving RV up a long climb when passing a truck ( if permitted). I guess the size is intimidating
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Hey look, multi quote works.
True story. Hit up I-75 down here sometime.
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