Jury Duty
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What do you do if you don’t believe the defendant is guilty? Or aren’t 100% sure? Or the credibility of your star witness isn’t so great?
My experience was that they’ll still move forward with the hearing. And then it becomes about winning or losing the case, not about guilt or innocence.
Incorrect. A murderer is guilty even if he never goes to trial. What you are trying to quote is. "PRESUMED innocent until proven guilty"
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If I dont believe they are guilty I dont nor should any prosecutor take someone to trial. My burden is to prove each element of the crime beyond a reasonable doubt. that standard does not require 100% certainty because that could never happen. we could all watch a video of something happen lets say we have ten people all film the same event. they all show the same thing are you 100% sure it happened?
I could argue all the video was manipulated somehow and not really showing the event. I can't prove with 100% certainty it was not manipulated , but still know beyond a reasonable doubt that the video really does show the event as it happened.
So are we for professional juries or not?
It would sure save time explaining the finer points of law to a professional juror. And they would be less likely to be swayed by a clever prosecutor or defense lawyer or the outward appearance of witnesses and defendants. All that sounds pretty good.
But is a professional juror more susceptible to tampering? Bribery? Repeated shading of decisions because of bias or prejudice?
If we are going to have professional jurors maybe first we should insist on judges that also act professionally. And you may not get very far with that. (And no, I was not in any way referring to Kavanaugh. That ship has sailed.) I have golfed with quite a few judges and found them to be a strange lot indeed.
There may be no correct answer to this question. But I vote yes.
All the best.
But is a professional juror more susceptible to tampering? Bribery? Repeated shading of decisions because of bias or prejudice?
If we are going to have professional jurors maybe first we should insist on judges that also act professionally. And you may not get very far with that. (And no, I was not in any way referring to Kavanaugh. That ship has sailed.) I have golfed with quite a few judges and found them to be a strange lot indeed.
There may be no correct answer to this question. But I vote yes.
All the best.
Ive been called once, and dismissed. Why dismissed? 3 siblings are lawyers, stepdad is a judge. They werent a fan. My stepdad was also called and dismissed. The prosecuter went off on some law that my stepdad corrected him about- because he wrote the law.
I've been there, and I've witnessed it. The D/A or prosecution has a job to do. Some of the time you find a person that is more or less in a "win" mode. You become a number on their personal scoreboard.
I feel like 02GT is an honest guy. I don't see him as someone out just to have a huge stack of cases won. I believe he is doing a tough job the best he can.
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I appreciate your comments. Sure I like to win but I know I would feel much worse if I knew what I was doing was wrong on a case. I felt bad once after getting a conviction on someone I knew was guilty. I have sat with people who want to represent themselves and told them please get a lawyer.
I love what I do. I will never get rich doing it, but I think it’s what I’m supposed to be doing. I wish people could see what we do outside the court room when the idea of wins and losses are of no concern. Like the other day when I heard that one of the best and most talented guys I know was crying in his office. He just broke for a few minutes after seeing what someone had done to a little child. Or the other day I had young Vet come in to court who has PTSD all he wanted was to plea out so he could get back to his treatment facility. Instead we talked about recovery for a while, got him an attorney and got him back up to treatment.
I won’t ever tell anyone the criminal justice system is perfect. I can only speak for the people I see everyday sure we screw up. But you find out soon there are bad people out there some very bad. They need to be taken care of. But there are also people who have done something stupid or have some type of issue. We should give them a shot to get their act together and hope they learn and don’t come back.
Having dealt with many juries, professionals would be overtly punitive on defendants.
Down here they give you 10 bucks tops.
I am exempt from Jury duty because I work for the Legislature. But I've always been curious what it would be like to serve.
I have been summoned at least a dozen times. I've only served on a jury once if you don't count the local court that was all traffic infractions. The one I sat on was a medical case that ended up lasting all week. Other than a couple of expert witnesses that were overly proud of their educational accomplishments it was very interesting. Sadly we all knew the plaintiff didn't have a case after the first day and felt bad that her lawyer even tried the case.
The judge seemed cool and even came back to the jury room during a break and talked shit about me wearing a Giants polo shirt (Cowboys fan). I later got a hand written letter from him thanking me for serving on the jury and then talked more trash about the Giants.
The judge seemed cool and even came back to the jury room during a break and talked shit about me wearing a Giants polo shirt (Cowboys fan). I later got a hand written letter from him thanking me for serving on the jury and then talked more trash about the Giants.
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