Street Race: My Son's Friend Almost Died

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MarcSpaz said:
I think you are reading too far into what I wrote.

Also, in Virginia, there is statutory code to stop an render aid. If you know someone is hurt and you leave the seen, you can be held criminally liable. That is one of the charges against the VW owner, because he split too.
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The accident was also behind that person. Ask an officer the number of idiots who don't see red and blue lights behind them as an a officer is trying to make it to an emergency. That's with red and blues. Maybe that person didn't see this happen at all.
 
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Kevins89notch said:
The accident was also behind that person. Ask an officer the number of idiots who don't see red and blue lights behind them as an a officer is trying to make it to an emergency. That's with red and blues. Maybe that person didn't see this happen at all.
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Generally I would agree with you, but the other car was in involved. The VW side swiped him when he clipped the nose of the WRX. You can even here him hitting his horn in the video.

There is no way he didn't know he was hit and he sure didn't miss a car barrel rolling past him at double his speed.

The only reason they have the driver of the VW is because he turned himself in later that night.
 
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The guy driving the VW is unknown to us. The kid who was in the WRX (the car the video is from) is friends with my son.

What I am about to type is what I was told, as I was not in the room when all of this took place. I was told this information by my son's friend (the one in the WRX). According to him, the technicality is multi-fold.

The police have pulled him over multiple times in the past, without citation as well as several citations, but those citations he was found innocent (I have first hand knowledge of some of those instances). The same officers and detectives that processed this crash case are the same officers and detectives he dealt with in the past. His lawyer showed a "pattern of bias" toward his client on behalf of law enforcement.

The dash cam, which was their primary evidence, was damaged in the crash and the investigators could not prove the device was calibrated at the time of the recording.

The crash scene investigator was only on the job for about 1 year. He only had 2 weeks of internal department training with no formal training in crash investigations or even advanced math skills. The investigator was incapable of answering even the most simple questions about how he made any determination of speed or liability.

In the end, based on past encounters and the testimony provided by the LEO's, his defense attorney provided the basis to believe that there was personal bias and extreme incompetence on behalf of the police, and it was just an accident.

Again, not first hand... just what I was told by him.

EDIT: He also said the Judge dismissed the charges "with prejudice". The reason his lost his job and GF is because we were all with him when he started racing (in other vehicles) and we know he's a ****-up, even though the judge tossed the case.
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Biased as out to get him or biased being to lenient?
 
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MarcSpaz said:
I think you are reading too far into what I wrote.

Also, in Virginia, there is statutory code to stop an render aid. If you know someone is hurt and you leave the seen, you can be held criminally liable. That is one of the charges against the VW owner, because he split too.
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Sounds like a bull shit law. If 2 stupid people decide to street race and almost kill one another. The innocent driver that has nothing to do with it should not have to stop.
 
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me32 said:
Sounds like a bull shit law. If 2 stupid people decide to street race and almost kill one another. The innocent driver that has nothing to do with it should not have to stop.
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he is misquoting the law. only drivers involved in the accident are required to stop and render aid. if you see an accident and your car was not involved you are under no obligation to stop and render aid and cannot be arrested for not stopping
 
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RDJ said:
he is misquoting the law. only drivers involved in the accident are required to stop and render aid. if you see an accident and your car was not involved you are under no obligation to stop and render aid and cannot be arrested for not stopping
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Thanks for that correction.
 
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Regardless of law if you see that and dont stop you are a ****ing asshole. What if there are innocent people who wanted no part of it bleeding out in the passenger seat? I couldnt give two shits about the driver
 
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RDJ said:
he is misquoting the law. only drivers involved in the accident are required to stop and render aid. if you see an accident and your car was not involved you are under no obligation to stop and render aid and cannot be arrested for not stopping
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me32 said:
Thanks for that correction.
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I'll try to explain this again. I did not misquote the law. All 3 cars were involved in the crash. Two racing and the 3rd bystander, who was hit by the VW along with the WRX.

Besides myself and others actually witnessed it, if you watch the video, you can tell the VW passenger's rear 1/4 hit the victim's driver's rear, which is that quick snap you see just before the VW back bumper clips the nose of the WRX.

From a general prospective, the bystander was a victim, but fled the scene and failed to render aid. My guess is that the other drive was either an illegal (my stupid County is a sanctuary county for illegals), had warrants, or drugs, etc., and didn't want to stop.
 
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Biased as out to get him or biased being to lenient?
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His lawyer made it seem like the police had a personal problem with him... ie they were picking on him.

The kid is a shithead and should be in jail... and not just for this. Best done a bunch of other stupid shit while driving that is flat out dangerous and could have killed someone and he just doesn't care.
 
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2 idiots and a normal driver. The WRX driver is as stupid as the VW driver. What idiot would not see that the VW was going to cut in front of you in that situation?
 

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