Storm Area 51, They Can't Stop All of Us Event

tt335ci03cobra said:

A 3 billion lbs steel building was leveled by a 200,000 lbs aluminum plane and and it’s fuel...? Keep in mind these buildings had 200,000 metric tons of steel. That’s 4,409,000 lbs of steel.

That’s some damn impressive payload for a 200,000lbs aluminum vessel.

Click to expand...

I’m going to help you out here, just a lil’bit......
Kinetic energy transfer of a plane weighing almost 400,000lbs(not 200,000lbs as You mentioned) traveling 350-400 mph is approximately 2723790Joules, which is a very significant impact. The initial impact alone could have cut through the steel support columns and brought the building down.
Liken it to this analogy, have you ever heard of a piece of straw impaling a tree trunk during a tornado? So you can’t say aluminum can’t do damage.

TK1299 said:

I’m going to help you out here, just a lil’bit......
Kinetic energy transfer of a plane weighing almost 400,000lbs(not 200,000lbs as You mentioned) traveling 350-400 mph is approximately 2723790Joules, which is a very significant impact. The initial impact alone could have cut through the steel support columns and brought the building down.
Liken it to this analogy, have you ever heard of a piece of straw impaling a tree trunk during a tornado? So you can’t say aluminum can’t do damage.

Click to expand...

Get the heck out of here with your science! And that's just kinetic energy, you haven't even gotten into all the potential energy of the fuel that was released.

08mojo said:

Get the heck out of here with your science! And that's just kinetic energy, you haven't even gotten into all the potential energy of the fuel that was released.

Click to expand...

Well, I kept it simple because you have to teach to the lowest denominator in the class.

Oh and just to add just look up all the WWII Kamikaze damage done against the US Navy ships and those was with planes much smaller. less power and speed. Most of the time it was either with Zero fighters with only a 250 Kg bomb or a D4Y Judy bomber slamming the decks.

So a passanger wide body jet very much could do catastrophic damage to a skyscrapper.

I can't believe this thread hasn't hit SD yet.

@03cobra#694 put us out of our misery please

blk02edge said:

There was still a lot of building on top of the impact zone... chain reaction. The building took itself down

Click to expand...

No shit.

You don't have to melt steal to a point of molten liquid. Heat it up, put a few thousand tons of pressure on it and watch it squish. One foor drops and all that force cause the whole thing to collapse under its own weight.

The conspiracy theorists would argue its impossible for a 5.56mm bullet to kill someone.. Now way could that small of a whole cause that much blood loss or do that much damage to an organ!!!

Corbic said:

You don't have to melt steal to a point of molten liquid...

Click to expand...

I see what you did there (and had to hide the rest of your quote to pretend like this misspelling was done on purpose).

Corbic said:

No shit.

You don't have to melt steal to a point of molten liquid. Heat it up, put a few thousand tons of pressure on it and watch it squish. One foor drops and all that force cause the whole thing to collapse under its own weight.

The conspiracy theorists would argue its impossible for a 5.56mm bullet to kill someone.. Now way could that small of a whole cause that much blood loss or do that much damage to an organ!!!

Click to expand...

There were steel columns that 'survived' the collapse. Until they turned into dust.

Twisted2v said:

There were steel columns that 'survived' the collapse. Until they turned into dust.

Click to expand...

PotatoP resolution is always valid in a conspiracy dispute

IronSnake said:

PotatoP resolution is always valid in a conspiracy dispute

Click to expand...

Thats the only type of video he posts haha. Time to bring back the svtp nickname Potato for him

I don’t want to seem like I’m mad or in angst against people who seem to know what happened. I appreciate the explanations and civil dialogue. It’s not lost on me. Cheers.

The lower levels with thicker steel were mostly intact, bent to hell, but mostly intact.

I’ve obviously seen a lot of vids discussing 911 conspiracy stuff. I’ve also seen a few vids that have talked about some of the things you guys have brought up.

Bottom line is the buildings came down and we got the Biden penned patriot act. Fast forward 18 years, and people born just as those buildings fell now want to storm Area 51 (as well as many others).

Quite the tale regardless how or why it happened.

You know part of what the Clinton/Brennan/clapper crap does is turn the common person against their government in growing numbers. This leads to more conspiracy churning, and more anti American sentiment.

They win if we the people don’t point out the good people in government along side pointing out the bad actors messing with it. It’s not too late yet but the country is at an inflection point where the corrupt few have taken so much from so many that the people are on edge and open to anything but this status quo.

The wide awake citizen see’s through it, but the low info voter is being bombarded with garbage and propaganda.

Corbic said:

Is this guy some sort of Chinese Bot?

Tens of thousands of contractors have worked at Area 51. The mere fact the site has gained such notoriety likely means any true black-site research has long since relocated to an unknown site and Area 51 remains the distraction.

If the Government truly had aliens, which they don't, or is doing insane cyborg clone hybrids or whatever, it likely wouldn't be taking place on America soil.

You also don't have any right to know about secret military programs. That secrecy is why we wiped out the 5th largest military in the world in less then 100hrs with less then 100 casualties.

Click to expand...

Antarctica

Ls2BluGoat said:

Antarctica

Click to expand...

Where the blue man group came from... the final frontier.

And as common place in today’s society, it’s been 5 days. Looks like it storm Lochness now

Forget Area 51. There’s Now an Invitation to Storm Loch Ness.

It’ll end up being storm the upstairs fridge for leftovers.

Some people should take their children outside more often and show them the country

I would bust out laughing and say the picture on the left is just a target rich enviroment for a few M2 HB .50's on Humvees.

Corbic said:

You don't have to melt steel to a point of molten liquid.

Click to expand...

True. Virtually all material factors are affected by heat absorption. The problem is, heat energy transfers similar to a fluid, especially when a fluid/fluids are the conveying medium for convection or conduction. Point being, it's localized, and air gaps are horribly inefficient at thermal transfer. Beams weakened by the impact and resulting heat would certainly collapse under the weight of the stories above. Also, it's not like the 747 was the only fuel- anything flammable became fuel.

Here are the parts I've never seen a good answer for:
1) Freefall speed on both towers and WTC7 from "thermal weakening"
2) Visible detonations identical to squib blasts for thermite charges
3) Molten material seen pouring from windows in a completely orthogonal fashion, far distant from the impact location
4) Reported explosions that were not acoustically similar to structural failure

Even if it was an anomaly, doing it twice and failing in a near identical nature is where most of my skepticism comes in.

I was on WTC1 on 5/11/01. Somewhere, I have developed pictures of the trip to NYC, and you can see the distance between WTC1, WTC2, and WTC7. I will never believe the official story, that WTC7 collapsed at free-fall from resulting structural damage from WTC1/WTC2. I do believe it was a terrorist attack, but there are just too many inconsistencies and physics questions that aren't addressed.