Armed citizen stops potential mass shooter as Missouri Walmart

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Because America. It only seems unappropriate because very few people do it anymore because they have been scared out of the practice by Leftists.

Let me ask it another way. Give me a situation where it helps, putting the scenario with hunters aside.

Like I said, I understand it shouldn't be illegal. That doesn't mean it's beneficial in any way to do so.
 

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Can someone explain to me when open carry IS appropriate?

All the time. I wasn't saying sometimes open carrying isn't appropriate my comments were regarding everything else the guy was doing. what he was wearing, what he was carrying, etc etc. if you roll up in all black wearing body armor and full kit with rifle in hand its going to look odd... at a birthday party... or a random walmart.

a glock with a couple extra mags? not a problem.

its not what the guy did (bearing arms) its how he did it that is the problem and you can't outlaw that because that is essentially making laws for stupidity. its the community's job to hassle the bad ideas into submission.
 

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Let me ask it another way. Give me a situation where it helps, putting the scenario with hunters aside.

Like I said, I understand it shouldn't be illegal. That doesn't mean it's beneficial in any way to do so.

I hate people....I would hope they would stay away from lest I don’t have to hear their retarded conversations.

That would be my reason....if I could.


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Nevermind. I should know better than to ask anything gun related around here.

It's a simple, honest question. Why or when is it helpful to open carry? "Cuz 2A" isn't an answer.

Carry on.
 

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Nevermind. I should know better than to ask anything gun related around here.

It's a simple, honest question. Why or when is it helpful to open carry? "Cuz 2A" isn't an answer.

Carry on.

here's your answer: anytime that carrying concealed is a hassle and less comfortable.
 

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Nevermind. I should know better than to ask anything gun related around here.

It's a simple, honest question. Why or when is it helpful to open carry? "Cuz 2A" isn't an answer.

Carry on.


I'll bite on one scinario that has been playing out in the NW of this country with Antifa ( left wing thugs). Closing down streets and the coward cops taking illegal (city consul or mayor) orders to stand down around them. And you have to use that street in order to get to where you need to be for an important appointment. That is probably the best case for open carry when local law enforcement doesn't carry out what needs to be done in order to protect you from harm.
 

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Nevermind. I should know better than to ask anything gun related around here.

It's a simple, honest question. Why or when is it helpful to open carry? "Cuz 2A" isn't an answer.

Carry on.

Well any answer you’ve gotten you dismissed as irrelevant, suggesting you already have an answer that you accept....soooo


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Let me ask it another way. Give me a situation where it helps, putting the scenario with hunters aside.

Like I said, I understand it shouldn't be illegal. That doesn't mean it's beneficial in any way to do so.

I disagree with the premise that it needs to "help" in some way.

2A is a God-given right merely expressed in our Constitution. America didnt create it.
 

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Let me ask it another way. Give me a situation where it helps, putting the scenario with hunters aside.

Like I said, I understand it shouldn't be illegal. That doesn't mean it's beneficial in any way to do so.

Open carry advocates believe that opportunistic criminals seeing citizens with openly carried handguns will help deter crime.

Open carry makes it easier and quicker to access one’s firearm because things such as clothing won’t get in the way. The difference is a fraction of a second but, in a gunfight, that’s an eternity.

Open carry is more comfortable. A benefit of open carry is that you are not leaning against your handgun all day when sitting down or having to buy larger clothing sizes (or additional layers) to conceal the weapon.

Open carry allows the use of larger and more combat effective handguns. With concealed carry, we are often limited to using smaller guns in order to keep them concealed. Larger guns are often (but not always) easier to shoot because you can get a better grip, you have a longer sight aperture between the front and rear sight, you have a higher magazine capacity, and it is easier to control the recoil for follow up shots.


I would open carry all ****in day if I wouldn’t get arrested in my shit democrat communist state of Massachusetts.
 

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I agree, what he did is beyond stupid, but what are the charges? Whos to say what should and should not be allowed for open carry? Fact is nobody stopped an active shooter, that is textbook fake news.


I’d start with Disorderly Conduct and go from there.
 

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I agree with you 100%, but did he break any laws?


From the looks of it, no, but it was stupid IMO. BTW that video is old as open carry of pistols is legal in TX now.

WATCH: Suspicious Walmart shopper explains himself

Another dude looking for attention.

Port St Lucie Police say there was no credible threat found when a man asked a Walmart clerk Tuesday night about a gun that could kill 200 people.
Phil Atte, of Port St. Lucie, was not charged, and later said he did to make a statement against the sale of certain guns.

“I’m in a Walmart a few days after el Paso and I’m seeing a white nationalist looking guy purchase a gun and I got mad,” Attery says.

Attey, told WPTV that what he said at Walmart "was in poor taste."

Attey is a self described gun violence prevention activist, who grew up on the Treasure Coast and now lives in Washington, DC.
Port St Lucie Police di not charge Attey but they also didn’t like his way of making a statement about guns.

Curious to know what a "white nationalist looking guy" looks like.
 

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Reminds me of the guys who walked into the police station with balaclavas on, carrying AKs. They almost got smoked...and for what? I understand that you may have the right to do something, but there is also common sense and knowing the "climate" you are operating in. If this guy wanted to educate the public on open carry maybe he could have given the local constabulary a heads up and maybe let the store management know ahead of time so as not to spread panic? What's the harm in that? I get the whole "it's his right" argument but that doesn't cover common sense. You have the right to filet your dick off too...doesnt make it a smart or safe idea.

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Curious to know what a "white nationalist looking guy" looks like.

That's easy, its a white guy that is clean cut, well dressed (implying they are possibly financially comfortable at someone else's expense) and doesn't use clothing, hair color or tattoos to openly brag about being a liberal, LGBTQ male feminist with a black non-binary partner.
 

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That's easy, its a white guy that is clean cut, well dressed (implying they are possibly financially comfortable at someone else's expense) and doesn't use clothing, hair color or tattoos to openly brag about being a liberal, LGBTQ male feminist with a black non-binary partner.
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That's easy, its a white guy that is clean cut, well dressed (implying they are possibly financially comfortable at someone else's expense) and doesn't use clothing, hair color or tattoos to openly brag about being a liberal, LGBTQ male feminist with a black non-binary partner.

Uh oh... Guess I'm screwed then.

Well he was officially charged with "making a terroristic threat in the 2nd degree." They apparently have laws in Missouri about causing evacuations etc. It'll be interesting to watch it play out because they allow open carry, and if he made no verbal threat to anyone, which it doesn't seem he did, and the guns were always strapped to him and not carried in a threatening manner... We'll see how it goes.
 

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I can open carry here in CT. I conceal carry because I can be pretty much assured that IF I were to go out in open carry mode that some snow flake would panic and call the cops, potentially telling them that I am an "armed shooter". That wouldn't bode well for me. SUCKS that leftists put such fear in the minds of Joe 2A Citizen that it is less than safe for them to open carry.

By the way, Bruno, I agree 100% with everything you said in your post.
 

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Not saying you are correct or incorrect but feelings don't trump rights.

Completely agree with you. You’re not thinking about the rights of the shoppers / general public.

“Disorderly conduct is a type of offense that can include a broad range of different types of conduct. These usually involve behavior that is done in a public area and creates a threat or disturbance to persons in the area. Examples of disorderly conduct may include:

  • Violating noise ordinances
  • Loitering
  • Disturbing the peace
  • Exhibiting reckless behavior in a crowded area
  • Public drunkenness
  • Any behavior that compromises public safety
Each state and county may define disorderly conduct slightly differently. Also, crimes that don’t fit into one particular criminal category may often be charged as disorderly conduct.”

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What Is Disorderly Conduct?


Here’s an example of disorderly conduct they didn’t mention: pissing in an alley. Ask me how I know.
 

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