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The 5.4/5.8 both made north of 1200sae with a 2650 on mild combos. Let me know when another modular does that 4.6/5.0/5.2. Not even going to argue the rest of your off the wall tech talk.

4.6 terminator mills we’re making 1000-1200whp back in 2005 with turbos. Stock long block with studs and head gaskets. Kits still for sale. $7k

Hellion 2003-2004 Ford Mustang Cobra Twin Turbo System - Hellion Power Systems

Show me a gt500 trinity with a $7k kit making and sustaining 1188whp.

http://www.mustangandfords.com/parts/mmfp-0801-twin-turbo-compound-boost-2003-mustang-cobra/

Get the **** outta here mr know nothing.

How’s 1188whp to that bullshit 1200sae. So 1050whp is now 1200 crank hp in a gt500?

Hahahahhahahaha so you’re telling me if I take the 1208rwhp my shitty old 2003 mustang svt cobra made on 30psi, and times it by 1.15, I have a 1390hp sae 5.3L? Wow, how do I verify that? Do I get internet cookies?

Does the guy making 1470whp in his 03 cobra 4.6 based get a medal for having 1700hp sae too? (Nickolas shortridge, YouTube if you’d like. Irs 6spd car running deep 8’s 175+)

I don’t know how much coolaid you’ve drunk to “know” what you “know” about 4.165” strokes but you’re up in the night bro. Call up any race shop that has gotten the 4.165 and 4.3” strokes to work, and ask them what kind of durability they get.
 

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So, CNC ported heads and a picture of flow results you pulled off the internet.

You’re a winner!




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4.6 terminator mills we’re making 1000-1200whp back in 2005 with turbos. Stock long block with studs and head gaskets. Kits still for sale. $7k

Hellion 2003-2004 Ford Mustang Cobra Twin Turbo System - Hellion Power Systems

Show me a gt500 trinity with a $7k kit making and sustaining 1188whp.

http://www.mustangandfords.com/parts/mmfp-0801-twin-turbo-compound-boost-2003-mustang-cobra/

Get the **** outta here mr know nothing.

How’s 1188whp to that bullshit 1200sae. So 1050whp is now 1200 crank hp in a gt500?

Hahahahhahahaha so you’re telling me if I take the 1208rwhp my shitty old 2003 mustang svt cobra made on 30psi, and times it by 1.15, I have a 1390hp sae 5.3L? Wow, how do I verify that? Do I get internet cookies?

Does the guy making 1470whp in his 03 cobra 4.6 based get a medal for having 1700hp sae too? (Nickolas shortridge, YouTube if you’d like. Irs 6spd car running deep 8’s 175+)

I don’t know how much coolaid you’ve drunk to “know” what you “know” about 4.165” strokes but you’re up in the night bro. Call up any race shop that has gotten the 4.165 and 4.3” strokes to work, and ask them what kind of durability they get.
So sad to see this. Seek help soon. You make no fkn sense. Lmao
 

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I seem to remember 07 super snakes were north of 750 hp?.. Your poster doesn’t make sense

Look up super snake failures bud. That’s not a ford product. It’s a Shelby America product. Think Hennessy meets Las Vegas glitz.

Find me a super snake on the factory long block with 50-75,000 miles.

My post makes perfect sense. You lack the desire to read and comprehend it because you either own a trinity or like the trinity so much you tune out anything negative. You guys want to say that a modified 5.8 will have done what the new 5.2 predator is doing.

But caveat, we need 15+psi to do it with a 2.65 TVS

Caveat, we need a new very expensive crank to sustain it.

Caveat, we need new very expensive guides, and chains to do it.

I can build a 5.8 to make 1000whp for 3 dyno pulls, Ford is selling a damn $75,000 car. Nobody wants something that fails and breaks after 5,000 miles or 2 trips to a track.
 

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Look up super snake failures bud. That’s not a ford product. It’s a Shelby America product. Think Hennessy meets Las Vegas glitz.

Find me a super snake on the factory long block with 50-75,000 miles.

My post makes perfect sense. You lack the desire to read and comprehend it because you either own a trinity or like the trinity so much you tune out anything negative. You guys want to say that a modified 5.8 will have done what the new 5.2 predator is doing.

But caveat, we need 15+psi to do it with a 2.65 TVS

Caveat, we need a new very expensive crank to sustain it.

Caveat, we need new very expensive guides, and chains to do it.

I can build a 5.8 to make 1000whp for 3 dyno pulls, Ford is selling a damn $75,000 car. Nobody wants something that fails and breaks after 5,000 miles or 2 trips to a track.
Well, hopefully this motor is everything we expect from Ford after taking this long to get to market.
 

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Meh, we’ll see. The technology is there, hopefully the 5.2 responds as well to mods, and has good reliability.

Take what we already know about the fpc voodoo. People have made 1200whp on 18psi turbo with them.

12/1 vs 9.5/1, soooooo (I did the math)

With 15-18psi and twin 62’s, the new gt500 mill will likely make north of 1050whp. Use a blower, and you probably need 18-20psi on a 3L whipple to clear 1000whp. Considering Trinity’s need 18-20psi with a TVS to make 800-850whp, and struggle to make 900whp with a 3L whipple at 20psi, all is well.
 

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You have yet to show me 1200+ sae from a 2650 powered 4.6/5.0/5.2 modular.

What sae are you looking for bud. Same means society of automotive engineers. There’s literally 15 different ratings that all have sae. Do you know how dyno numbers work?
 

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Poor coytard can’t handle facts. Yes we are talking factory heads with a port. Not rocket science.

My ported gt500 heads stage 3 barely out flow a stock coyote head by 40cfm.

I spent $4000 with livernois to take gt/gt500 heads from 305/260 to 360/310 cfm.

Porter coyote heads outflow that.

I have gt500 heads you wonderfully knowledgeable one! You’re criticizing someone who is telling you it’s snake oil that already bought the ****ing snake oil or at best 15-20 year old stuff that has passed its prime.

Face it. The trinity architecture, cool and awesome as it was in 2013 was the pinical of 2nd/3rd gen modular architecture.

It’s like the Windsor 5.0’s, 5.8’s, etc. Yes they had their day and no one is talking shit on them, but tech has surpassed them.

The trinity was an all in by Ford at the time. You want it to last, don’t muck it up and shoot for the moon.
 

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My ported gt500 heads stage 3 barely out flow a stock coyote head by 40cfm.

I spent $4000 with livernois to take gt/gt500 heads from 305/260 to 360/310 cfm.

Porter coyote heads outflow that.

I have gt500 heads you wonderfully knowledgeable one! You’re criticizing someone who is telling you it’s snake oil that already bought the ****ing snake oil
Wrong they don’t
 

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My ported gt500 heads stage 3 barely out flow a stock coyote head by 40cfm.

I spent $4000 with livernois to take gt/gt500 heads from 305/260 to 360/310 cfm.

Porter coyote heads outflow that.

I have gt500 heads you wonderfully knowledgeable one! You’re criticizing someone who is telling you it’s snake oil that already bought the ****ing snake oil or at best 15-20 year old stuff that has passed its prime.

Face it. The trinity architecture, cool and awesome as it was in 2013 was the pinical of 2nd/3rd gen modular architecture.

It’s like the Windsor 5.0’s, 5.8’s, etc. Yes they had their day and no one is talking shit on them, but tech has surpassed them.

The trinity was an all in by Ford at the time. You want it to last, don’t muck it up and shoot for the moon.


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Dyno Jet SAE Bud...

Wrong they don’t

Dyno jet sae doesn’t exist, ass clown response shows you have no clue what you’re talking about

For a max port stage 5 port job you still don’t get 400cfm. That’s nothing you’ve ever seen in person.

Stage 3 is max effort street car port, and it’s [email protected] lift. To go along with that is a lack of low end velocity. Here’s my graph on 30psi. Notice the low end velocity is... absent. As I said pages ago, had I done my build with coyote architecture, I’d have 50-100whp on top, and another 100wtq down low.

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Here’s 10.75psi pump gas
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Those are dynojet numbers with sae j607 (60° correction) but it might have been j1349 (77° Correction). Boost builds about 1500rpm faster on the street with real load. I have 10psi by 3250-3500rpm and 5psi anywhere over 2500rpm on the street. Regardless, coyote experience the same load based spoiling of turbos on the street as well. Turbos dyno poorly at low rpm.

Do you know what a stage 3 port looks like?
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That right there is MY $2500 heads with a $4000 port job.

Here they are with another $5k of cams, retainers, guides, Seats, valves, springs, reluctor wheel, (and valve covers, chains, tensioners etc not in the pic.)

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Get a ****ing clue guy. You want to call the guy who already did the shit that he’s wrong. Hahahhahhhh.
 
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