C8 Corvette ZR1 Will Get 900-HP, Twin-Turbo, Hybrid V8 Engine: Report

GTSpartan said:

One butt hurt ex-test driver questions why go mid engine, when virtually ever single super/hyper car out there is configured that way. I guess everyone else is stupid. For a brand new platform, it has received overwhelmingly good reviews. Everyone is quick to point out the very few blemishes though.

And handling???? This is the entry level C8 for the masses, and it still handles very well. They need to keep all the 60-70 yr old guys from launching these things off the road. You want hard core handling...........just wait

Even asking if a C8 compares to a 720S is flattering......A full on CF, $400K + car, with the typical reliability of a British car. Performance, Cost, or Refinement as you put it. Pick two.

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I never knew GM hurt this test driver I believe to be Jim Mero. Did they force him to early retirement?
No doubt the c8z’s will be fast, faster than yesterday’s exotics.

blk02edge said:

All the underwhelming C8's were pre production cars, they'll get it sorted. And just wait till its on a real tire... Thats all going to change drastically.

And the 720S is fast but it can not out run the disgusting noise that it makes at WOT

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Spend how many years testing and designing only to give editors an unfinished product? Not buying that. Saving something for the z cars to make them stand out. That I believe. But I would think difference I. The z performance should stand out all alone without hamstringing the base model.

GTSpartan said:

He just hates Vette's......which is perfectly fine. Just doesn't want to clearly declare it.

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I don’t. The C2 is gorgeous and the C6 Z is amazing!

Grabber said:

This sounds like it will be a beast!

Since it is already being speculated to be beater than a McLaren 720S, I wonder what this C8 ZR1 will be priced at.

Considering the last ZR1 was roughly 150-160K without every option, with tax/gas guzzler, I am thinking the new one will be a lot closer to 200K optioned out.

Still much cheaper than a 720S, but, I still don't think it will be as similar as some are making it out to be.

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The 720 will be close to that used out of warranty when the C8ZR1 arrives.

Europe has been running Turbos on V8s for years. Why is it just now coming to the US?

GodStang said:

Europe has been running Turbos on V8s for years. Why is it just now coming to the US?

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Because they had to build front heavy inefficient supercharged cars.

You know the trailer park will LS swap it to go slower.


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You know the trailer park will LS swap it to go slower.


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ON D BIT said:

Saving something for the z cars to make them stand out. That I believe. But I would think difference I. The z performance should stand out all alone without hamstringing the base model.

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That would be like questioning Ford's decision for not going balls out on their 4cyl Mustang. Why doesn't it handle as good as the GT350. It's because they want you to trade up and spend a lot more $.

I would argue that the base model is FAR from being hamstrung.
Capabilities:
60-0 <100ft
0-60 <3 sec
>1.0G
Low 11's in the 1/4 at over 120
190+ top speed

Unless your expectations are unrealistically high, those are pretty good numbers.

Offer something more middle of the road for the masses, that still performs incredibly well at it's price point, but is not so hard edged that you can only drive it under perfect conditions. That's what this version of the C8 is.

Just like Mustang owners, most will never even even come close to extracting even 75% of the cars potential. They just want a boulevard cruiser that looks cool. They'll offer something for the gearhead's soon enough.

The info on the C8 a year ago was the ZR1 version (not named at that time as ZR1, just a twin turbo hybrid) would top 1000 HP.

So, while still awesome, this report of 900 HP is adjusted down. Makes me wonder if the final product will actually be in the 950+ range.

GodStang said:

Europe has been running Turbos on V8s for years. Why is it just now coming to the US?

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2 reasons...

1. the price point in the domestic market for mustangs, corvettes, camaros..etc didn't justify the additional cost and complexity of going from a dirt cheap roots/tvs blower to twin turbos. Now that these cars are reaching and eclipsing 6 figures they have more room to do this. Each subsystem and component have individual cost targets that mostly dictate the engineering decisions.

2. combination of a misguided sense of legacy/tradition and the perception that domestic buyers are not as sophisticated, will buy anything they release and generally too dumb to care. merica

Just FYI, in 1980 you could get a trans am with the olds 6.6l v8 and a single turbo. These things were pumping out a monstrous 210hp.

GodStang said:

Europe has been running Turbos on V8s for years. Why is it just now coming to the US?

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Probably the same reason Callaway went away from turbocharging and now exclusively use their stand alone TVS S/C for all their offerings. Reeves learned that turbos was hard on the exhaust system everything from the headers down to the tailpipe, but they really was bad for the catalytic converters. Reeves said that the Sledgehammer 895 HP vette he made in 1988 would need to swap out the cats every 20,000 miles due to the extra heat they caused to the exhaust system. That can get expensive real quick.

Oh the Wankel rotary engine they have the exact opposite where a turbo would cool the exhaust to the point that a cat couldn't function right and so not be able to take out the hydro carbons the engine emitted. Hence why Mazda didn't offer a factory turbo RX8 due to this.

Just showing the difference between a reciprocating and rotary engine and turbo systems to each.

GTSpartan said:

That would be like questioning Ford's decision for not going balls out on their 4cyl Mustang. Why doesn't it handle as good as the GT350. It's because they want you to trade up and spend a lot more $.

I would argue that the base model is FAR from being hamstrung.
Capabilities:
60-0 <100ft
0-60 <3 sec
>1.0G
Low 11's in the 1/4 at over 120
190+ top speed

Unless your expectations are unrealistically high, those are pretty good numbers.

Offer something more middle of the road for the masses, that still performs incredibly well at it's price point, but is not so hard edged that you can only drive it under perfect conditions. That's what this version of the C8 is.

Just like Mustang owners, most will never even even come close to extracting even 75% of the cars potential. They just want a boulevard cruiser that looks cool. They'll offer something for the gearhead's soon enough.

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Like I said, I like GM answer better than it was preproduction.

my main point was that it’s now a mid engine platform and I was shocked when editors were complaining of a push. I thought mid engine was supposed to fix all of that. People here was saying mid engine is magical.

c8 or Viper GT?

ON D BIT said:

Like I said, I like GM answer better than it was preproduction.

my main point was that it’s now a mid engine platform and I was shocked when editors were complaining of a push. I thought mid engine was supposed to fix all of that. People here was saying mid engine is magical.

c8 or Viper GT?

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Over/understeer can be swapped with sway bars alone, the pre production cars simply were not finalized. That balance can also drastically change with tire.
Just wait until the mags do their tests with showroom cars. I wont be shocked if the base car still is blah but im sure the opinions of Z51 will change.

AWD would be a game changer in domestic high HP market . I'll buy one if it's AWD and TTV8 . Atter heaving AWD cars I don't think I can switch back to RWD sports car. AWD are so much more usable and fun to drive

Ok now the guilt will just destroy me. Because now I cant get the kids braces, inheritance or college. I have to have one of these instead. I wonder how close everthing I own and my 2013GT500 will get me?

Chancey said:

Ok now the guilt will just destroy me. Because now I cant get the kids braces, inheritance or college. I have to have one of these instead. I wonder how close everthing I own and my 2013GT500 will get me?

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Selfish kids. YOLO jk jk jk

this is ****ing awesome. a game changer for sure. I'm a ford/dodge guy but even this brings me to the dark side. Just wait till the TT kits roll out for the base c8 ....shits about to get nuts on the streets hahaha

nxhappy said:

this is ****ing awesome. a game changer for sure. I'm a ford/dodge guy but even this brings me to the dark side. Just wait till the TT kits roll out for the base c8 ....shits about to get nuts on the streets hahaha

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Going to be some BIG bonuses for Highway Patrols and state troopers coming haha

lexustech48 said:

Going to be some BIG bonuses for Highway Patrols and state troopers coming haha

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I wonder if the base c8 will have decent pistons and rods? hopefully good for 700whp

nxhappy said:

I wonder if the base c8 will have decent pistons and rods? hopefully good for 700whp

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Nope, same pistons and rods as the LT1. 600rwhp is about the limit on the stock fuel system. With a cam with a 38% fuel lobe and meth with a good tuner, 700 is common. Not sure I’d push it beyond that. Ring gaps are too tight for anything over 9-10 psi.

Besides, drop in Forged pistons are like $800. Already balanced and same weight as stockers and can be installed by dropping the pan on a low mileage car. Rods are good to 850 or so and cranks have always been solid to 1000rwhp.

If they build it, I will come.

capnkirk52 said:

If they build it, I will come.

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Pfft, I already came!