New Kitchen and Finished Basement

Iamchris

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Hey all,

I just closed on a house and had a contractor come in for quote. I am looking at a new kitchen, and finishing part of the basement. I have some details and costs below, Im interested in some opinions from folks that do the trades, or who have dealt with this before.

The kitchen is medium size. I was told cabinets alone are $8500, hickory shaker wood face and doors, with everything else being plywood construction. Cabinets total distance is probably 16' "L" for range and sink. Granite counters across the sink area, and a two level eat-in bar. Another 10' of counter space... granite total around $4500. Close off a doorway, turn a whole wall into an open archway into the dining room. Cabinets built into a 10' nook to create a pantry surrounding the fridge. Replace existing window with a garden bay window, to include brick work to match brick exterior construction. In counter-top range and separate oven to be built into a stack. New vinyl tile floors. Recessed lighting. Updated electrical, cabinet lighting. Total 32K

Finished basement includes a salon space of about 15x10', salon sink and all applicable electrical and recessed lighting. Salon half-bath, to include sink, toilet, vanity. Hallway access area about 30' long. Family bathroom, large bathtub, toilet, sink, recessed lights, washer and dryer hookups. There is already a drain for one toilet, but they need to break ground to add the plumbing for additional toilet and a pump to remove waste. Run plumbing for both bathrooms and salon. Run electrical to all areas. Remove old wiring, upgrade from 100amp to 200amp, clean up and replace some existing wiring to accommodate construction. Jack and reinforce 3 joists in the back corner. Vinyl flooring, greenboard construction, greenboard ceiling, 2x4 framing, ect. Total 29k

Its a big bill! Part of me wants to tell me wife to suck it up and build the house out ourselves over a much longer period of time. I know these guys will do good work, and it will be done quickly. The other thing is, a good portion of this bill is paying electricians and plumbing, which are licensed trades. Connecticut allows a home owner to do their own work with a permit, but I have almost no experience doing that type of work.
 

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That’s a deal.

I’m an electrician and for a simple kitchen re-model finish off basement that’s not too much of a wiring mess and 200 amp service I’m close to 15/20k with a cheap lighting package. That’s only 1 sub.

Average kitchen remodels for the builders I work for are at least 100k.


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I'm a general contractor. That seems to be pretty cheap. I'd probably get a few more quotes. You don't want someone in there that has under priced the job or you are going to get shafted. I'm in Colorado, but I would be surprised to find out that the labor cost in the north east is cheaper than here.

Just a basic tear out and refinish on a kitchen for me starts at $40k. Then you are adding a window and exterior work and changes to the dining area.

My electrician charges $3k min for a 200 amp panel upgrade. Normally on just a kitchen remodel my electrical runs $7-9k.

On the basement it runs about $40 a sqft to build out with one bathroom. Add in all the other things you mentioned, I'd think the sqft price would go up.
 

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We reno'd our kitchen in our last house about 10 years ago, with me doing some of the wotk it was about 35K. Decent cabinets, concrete counters. new floor, mid grade appliances. A couple years later we did all the windows in the house and that was 24K. We did a quickie/cheapie upgrade on the master bath before we sold it and that was about 20K. Decent reno's are not cheap, even if you do them yourself
 

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Goddamn at some of these prices.

We went to studs on our old kitchen, tore down a wall and added a header for a bar area, got new cabinets, and all new appliances for waaaaaay under some of these numbers.

Nothing was “top of the line” but nothing was garbage, and it looked just fine.

edit: by we I mean after tear down, everything was through a contractor
 

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Goddamn at some of these prices.

We went to studs on our old kitchen, tore down a wall and added a header for a bar area, got new cabinets, and all new appliances for waaaaaay under some of these numbers.

Nothing was “top of the line” but nothing was garbage, and it looked just fine.

edit: by we I mean after tear down, everything was through a contractor
I think a lot of my added costs are in the details. I am replacing a window that requires brick work, moving the sink which requires plumbing, moving the range and oven both requiring electrical work. Recessed lighting for more electrical. Closing a door and knocking down a wall. The material allowance on cabinets and counters is 13k alone.
 

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I think a lot of my added costs are in the details. I am replacing a window that requires brick work, moving the sink which requires plumbing, moving the range and oven both requiring electrical work. Recessed lighting for more electrical. Closing a door and knocking down a wall. The material allowance on cabinets and counters is 13k alone.
When we built our house, the cabinet bill was $20,000. Kitchen, laundry, and two bathrooms. Good cabinets aren't cheap. I don't have a clue what the tops cost us, but I hope to never have to replace any of it!

Don't cheap out on your plumbing fixtures either. PM me if you have questions.

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I think a lot of my added costs are in the details. I am replacing a window that requires brick work, moving the sink which requires plumbing, moving the range and oven both requiring electrical work. Recessed lighting for more electrical. Closing a door and knocking down a wall. The material allowance on cabinets and counters is 13k alone.


You, as well as others here, are probably dealing with larger spaces as well. This was out beginner hone that we sold for 105,xxx back in 2016.
We Had the kitchen done, and did the bath and floor throughout for under 20K.

Our cost of living here is probably significantly lower as well.


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estimates don't seem far off. One good thing about working with a contractor is they get materials at discounted prices, but then you're at their mercy.
 

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Looks pretty fair pricing wise but get one or two more quotes and see where they land. You can also see if you can squeeze any off of that original price, worst you’re told is no.
 

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**** that. Save $60k and buy a brand new bigger house ...
 

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You said you were going with granite countertops. Consider quartz. It's a bit more expensive, but has superior durability. It also doesn't stain, and it's pretty much heat-proof, meaning you can put a hot pan on quartz which you can't do with granite.
 

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You said you were going with granite countertops. Consider quartz. It's a bit more expensive, but has superior durability. It also doesn't stain, and it's pretty much heat-proof, meaning you can put a hot pan on quartz which you can't do with granite.

You've got that backwards Bob. Granite is more heat-resistant than quartz.
 

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