Can you make a set for me? I'd pay for it.
let me ask the wife. She has been complaining that she is bored.
Installing ATS Brembos on the Cobra.
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let me ask the wife. She has been complaining that she is bored.
I am finishing my rear 43mm Taurus caliper install. For my install I am going to be using the larger Cobra rotors. I have installed the M-2300-M mounting brackets so positioning is correct. I had to purchase the cobra caliper bracket separate from the main body caliper to accommodate for the wider vented rotor.
I am looking at getting a set of street pads for break in and testing. Can any confirm that the standard SN95 and new edge pads (in my case will be the Cobra) are a direct fit to the Taurus. I read Mustang5L5 post #243 saying its all good. Just want to verify before I buy.
I am looking at getting a set of street pads for break in and testing. Can any confirm that the standard SN95 and new edge pads (in my case will be the Cobra) are a direct fit to the Taurus. I read Mustang5L5 post #243 saying its all good. Just want to verify before I buy.
I used 98 Cobra stock pads with my Taurus calipers for my 98 Cobra
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Thanks. I ordered a set of stop tech Z26 for the front and rear for street testing and break in yesterday.
Are the taurus rear calipers only worthwhile if upgrading the front brakes? Or would it help reduce brake dive with stock front brakes?
If anyone hasn't bought but wanted to, this seller just discounted the price from $249.95 to $199.95. Anywhere else, I'm seeing the calipers alone at like $130 each. This is both, with pads and bolts, AND free shipping. Used calipers are almost going for this price. Great deal if anyone is thinking about it.
EDIT: just looked at completed auction, $206, $204, $242...all used without new pads/pins.
$199 is a steal!
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I got them like 2 days ago when ebay had a 5% ebay bucks promotion so I get $10 ebay credit in like June.
have we gotten any test results versus 00 R brakes? Actual numbers and laps’/
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my 00 R calipers we’re retired in 2014 after 8 years of tracking. Stoptech front and MM wilwood rear now.
Stopped in to see what the fuss was all about with the ats stuff. Seems like should be comparable to the R setup
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I have r calipers in a box that I was going to powder coat and rebuild, so I was curious how they would compare.
the original owner of my car was my uncle who tracked the cobra it’s whole life. First 3 years was on the stock brakes and then 8 years on the R brakes then he moved to the stoptech 13”x1.25” front two piece and MM wilwood 12.7”x1.25” rear two piece floating strip on late 2014 and then tracked that setup for two years before he retired from tracking. I picked the car up last year with the BBK setup on the car ready to go.
if you can trust what he told me then this is what his data showed:
Stock brakes. 1-2 events for each set of rotors and pads equally. Hawk blue pads
cobra R brakes. 3-4 events on the rotors and pads would go around 3 events.
cobra R setup with brake ducting. 4-5 events on rotors. 4 events on pads. Hawk pads.
front and rear BBK mentioned above. 15 events on rotors and 6-7 events on pads hawk pads
From my research hawk pads are aggressive on life span but do work great. I’ve switched to raybestos which have high initial bite and perhaps not as high of a grip but the longevity is suppose to be amazing. The 20 year veterans says I’ll get an entire season on rotors and pads. Of course I’ll believe it when I see it.
Again. Source if information is from a guy that I trust. Hope this helps. I have no clue how the ats would fit into this.
If you decide to sell those, please shoot me a PM. Been searching for a set for quite sometime.
I've read your posts on the FB groups, too. Definitely trusting data and I would trust a lifelong Ford tech anytime (that's correct about your uncle, right?)
I'm hoping someone gets data on the ATS brakes, otherwise, IMHO, they're just a cosmetic upgrade to those who already have aftermarket brake kits. Not saying they're not an upgrade from stock brakes, pretty sure everyone agrees they are.
Yeah, took me forever to find these then took me forever (again) to find the rebuild kit. I know the full kits are available from some outlets still but I didn't want to spend that kind of dough. Still ended up costing me $500 for the calipers, braided lines and rebuild kit when all was said and done. I'll keep you posted. I have a feeling I'll end up using these. Just been trying to get my man cave done for awhile now and all of my Terminator projects are on hold (brakes, KB Street Cage, rear seat delete, etc etc)
Thanks. I have 6 uncles, my dad and 1 aunt. Grandma had 8. The youngest Rob is now 57 has been a Ford tech for 37 years. He's a Ford master tech plus a whole bunch of other certifications and such. The oldest "Jeff" is the one who I bought my cobra from who purchased it new when he was 50 and road raced the car it's entire life. He has been a motor head for 50 years and does all of his own work. My uncle "Tim" just recently passed away but he was a construction jack of all trades and self taught paint/body. My uncle "James" has a 4,000sqft wood shop/paint booth and between the four of them they have restored several cars. The most recent is this AMX for a close friend.
When you have family that has this experience I've just learned to listen and trust. Sure they are not always right... my uncle Rob the ford tech doesn't believe in huge modifications so he's more of an OEM type guy. my uncle Jeff is the ballsy builds high end shit type of guy and loves horsepower.
Back on topic: I think the ATS is completely fine for street/drag use. I think it's a hell of an upgrade. Sure any of the modifications is questionable but I don't think it's "that" big of a deal. I would like to get my hands on the ATS caliper just to compare it to my 00' R and weigh/measure them.
Just for general knowledge... I really haven't been able to find anything on the ATS calipers. The one thing I did find was this brembo letterhead mentioning the design of them and the application they are for. Does this mean they are performance capable..... No clue. I'm not the expert. Are these forged? No clue. Are these built to withstand 900f track abuse... no clue.
So much unknowns. I absolutely do not question if they are better than the stock cobra brakes. That is a no brainer and I'm not a dummy. I just wish you could find an actual specification on the brakes. They have so many variants.
I do find it odd that the ATS caliper was designed for a 300hp 3400lb car while their CTS-V gets the 6 piston brembos for a car making 550hp and weighs over 4000lbs. I mean.... this is the only logic I have that says we probably shouldn't run to the "ATS" variant and look for something made for our cars which typically make 6-700hp and weigh 3700lbs
So much unknowns. I absolutely do not question if they are better than the stock cobra brakes. That is a no brainer and I'm not a dummy. I just wish you could find an actual specification on the brakes. They have so many variants.
I do find it odd that the ATS caliper was designed for a 300hp 3400lb car while their CTS-V gets the 6 piston brembos for a car making 550hp and weighs over 4000lbs. I mean.... this is the only logic I have that says we probably shouldn't run to the "ATS" variant and look for something made for our cars which typically make 6-700hp and weigh 3700lbs
That's a good find, interesting PR. I agree, like I said, no doubt they're better than our original PBR brakes, but how much better than other aftermarket brakes? That's the question. I love the look of the 00R brakes and hope to have them on my car soon enough, but if the ATS/XTS brakes are better, and for that cheap, it would be stupid to not do them instead....for now, I'm awaiting specs, since I obviously am not in a hurry to install these.
Well... the stock 00' R caliper is designed for the stock cobra/GT rotor which is 332x28mm or 1.1" thick. You can the ATS caliper and stick to that but to me the performance upgrade is in the rotor which is what takes the heat... The XTS caliper using a GT500 which is 355x32mm or 1.25" thick rotor is the more ideal of an upgrade. I think the Chris Salmon Shim Kit works with both. A guy on the FB group "Clem Palacious" had some information on this on april 8th. The issue with the GT500 rotor is the fact you have to run 18" wheels.
I find my 13" stoptechs to be extremely powerful and lock up my street tires very easy so my 13" brakes are not the limit... the tires are. My uncle told me he would still be able to lockup the brakes using 275/40/17 Hoosier A6 tires meaning the stoptechs still are not at their limit. My long term goal will be to buy another set of fenders and do flares and run 315 square setup with the Hoosier A7 tires.
If you can stand on the brakes and the brakes lock (or abs engages)... you need better tires. If you stand on the brakes and your not stopping you need better brakes. They should compliment eachother "based on your vehicle and driving style"
Very true. I know I've had some spirited drives and my brakes definitely take some extra distance to slow me down.
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