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Has anyone used these kits? I've got a coupon for American Muscle and am thinking of upgrading my stock pads and rotors. I don't track the car but I do drive a lot of curvy, mountainous roads. They have the z26 street warrior and z23 evolution sport. Any thoughts on these or a better option that AM sells? Also, does AM still do a forum discount? thank you
 

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I ran the street and the more high performance oriented on my SN95. Street was stockish grab the other was more grab, but also upgraded calipers too. I’d jump to the uogrades. There was little to no dust as well
 

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I just put the Z23's on my 2012 to replace the wearing stock brembo pads and ford rotors. I knew going into it that cheap drilled and slotted rotors aren't the best but being on skinnies I wasn't too concerned about max breaking performance. I wanted low dust more than anything else. I was going to go with Hawk ceramics but knew the performance on my car would be pointless so I rolled the dice.

For cheap chinese rotors they seem to be pretty decently made but they're definitely not "premium" rotors. The pads seem to do what they claim and be low dust. That said, the braking sucks compared to better brakes and even the stock brakes. I properly bedded them and they've had some break in time and they won't even stop hard enough to get any chirp form the tires or engage ABS with skinnies up front. The stock brakes would do it no problem. That said I do think they're breaking about as hard as the skinnies will grab so they're purpose served for my application.

I wouldn't put them on a car that has wider tires and can take advantage of better brakes though, even if it's just a street car.

If your pads and rotors are still good and you want to improve braking performance do some high quality SS braided lines front and rear and switch to a high performance brake fluid like Motul or super blue.
 

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My pads and rotors seem ok, but the car is high mileage and I don't know what they are. I thought the slotted/drilled rotors would be an upgrade. Just trying to use my coupon before it expires...
 

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My pads and rotors seem ok, but the car is high mileage and I don't know what they are. I thought the slotted/drilled rotors would be an upgrade. Just trying to use my coupon before it expires...

Negative, drilled rotors are prone to cracking if you're heating them up good in the twisties. GOOD slotted rotors would be an upgrade because the slots still help evacuate the gasses from between the pad and rotor.

You can probably shop around and find better brake components and still get a discount. Just because you have a coupon doesn't mean you have to use it either. I'm sure you get the coupons in the junk mail with coupons for jiffy lube, you're not going to take the car there though just because you have a coupon... same concept.
 

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Negative, drilled rotors are prone to cracking if you're heating them up good in the twisties. GOOD slotted rotors would be an upgrade because the slots still help evacuate the gasses from between the pad and rotor.

You can probably shop around and find better brake components and still get a discount. Just because you have a coupon doesn't mean you have to use it either. I'm sure you get the coupons in the junk mail with coupons for jiffy lube, you're not going to take the car there though just because you have a coupon... same concept.

Lets be clear here when you say twisties. . . . You are talking about prolonged track use. Not driving the car aggressively once in awhile on back roads. I like to make that perfectly clear because people spew this info without clarifying.
 

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Any thoughts on these or a better option that AM sells? Also, does AM still do a forum discount? thank you

A better option would be the StopTech or Baer Sport rotors if your budget allows.

AM has greatly reduced the discount codes they used to offer. There may be one for 3% off that is still active in their vendors forum section.
 

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Lets be clear here when you say twisties. . . . You are talking about prolonged track use. Not driving the car aggressively once in awhile on back roads. I like to make that perfectly clear because people spew this info without clarifying.

It really doesn’t matter, there’s plenty of people that drive their cars more aggressively on state maintained roads than some drive on private tracks. Driving and braking hard is the same regardless of who owns the surface you’re on. Drive aggressively with drilled steel rotors and you’re going to crack them, sometimes you’ll crack them without driving aggressively. Both of the sets of drilled rotors I’ve cracked were 100% street vehicles. One set was power stops on my Raptor and the other set were stop tech on my 04 cobra.
 

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It really doesn’t matter, there’s plenty of people that drive their cars more aggressively on state maintained roads than some drive on private tracks. Driving and braking hard is the same regardless of who owns the surface you’re on. Drive aggressively with drilled steel rotors and you’re going to crack them, sometimes you’ll crack them without driving aggressively. Both of the sets of drilled rotors I’ve cracked were 100% street vehicles. One set was power stops on my Raptor and the other set were stop tech on my 04 cobra.

Very true.
 

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It really doesn’t matter, there’s plenty of people that drive their cars more aggressively on state maintained roads than some drive on private tracks. Driving and braking hard is the same regardless of who owns the surface you’re on. Drive aggressively with drilled steel rotors and you’re going to crack them, sometimes you’ll crack them without driving aggressively. Both of the sets of drilled rotors I’ve cracked were 100% street vehicles. One set was power stops on my Raptor and the other set were stop tech on my 04 cobra.

This conversation is no more silly than the guys that claim you should only buy forged wheels because cheap wheels will crack.
I have never seen a set of drilled rotors crack from street driving. I have seen them crack on cars that were heavily tracked.

OP, do not let this comment make your decision. This is silly.
 

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I can see there is a lot of controversy over brake parts. I've got some thinking to do, my $50 off coupon is good through tomorrow! Thanks for all in input.
 

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This conversation is no more silly than the guys that claim you should only buy forged wheels because cheap wheels will crack.
I have never seen a set of drilled rotors crack from street driving. I have seen them crack on cars that were heavily tracked.

OP, do not let this comment make your decision. This is silly.

So just because you haven’t seen it means it doesn’t happen? LOL ok guy. I’ve literally had two sets crack on 100% street driven cars. Plenty of others have had the same experience. In fact if you take 30 seconds to do a google search there’s hundreds of results with pictures too. It doesn’t matter if it’s the track or the street, driving them hard is driving them hard. Not everyone drives like a pussy.
 

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This was recently posted elsewhere. I realize it was an S550 Mustang but... similar parts??

Brake rotor failure
That's definitely not good. Don't know all the facts though, he said he ran it hard, no cool down period. The discoloration on that rotor makes me think he possibly had a stuck caliper. That's the track solid rotor, I'm considering the Street Warrior drilled/slotted kit. Worst case failures can and do happen with any part - and there are usually many extenuating factors that contribute to the failure - sometimes poor product to begin with, sometimes improper install and sometimes other component failures are to blame. Gotta say, that's the first rotor failure I've seen.
 

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Maybe I'll just keep my stock brakes and buy something else!
 

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So just because you haven’t seen it means it doesn’t happen? LOL ok guy. I’ve literally had two sets crack on 100% street driven cars. Plenty of others have had the same experience. In fact if you take 30 seconds to do a google search there’s hundreds of results with pictures too. It doesn’t matter if it’s the track or the street, driving them hard is driving them hard. Not everyone drives like a pussy.

so you think I drive like a pussy? I have hundreds of videos of me racing my cars on the same junk.
The internet also says you will break cheap cast wheels too if you hit a pothole. That one is a myth too.

to each their own, but It is not quite as prevelant as you make it to be.
You missed an obvious point I was trying to make with “tracked car”.
People run them hot with no cooldown on tracks was my point.
 

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