The EYE is Watching

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They will know where, when and how fast. You will not be modding. Insurance companies will have access, because you won't be insured unless you agree to them monitoring you. Depressing future guys. It isn't just battery health they will be watching.

GM's wireless battery breakthrough draws buzz
Sep. 9, 2020 8:34 AM ET|About: General Motors Company (GM)|By: Clark Schultz, SA News Editor


IEEE Spectrum is posting information on its exclusive look at General Motors' (NYSE:GM) wireless battery management system that is drawing notice in engineering circles.

"Unlike today’s battery modules, which link up to an on-board management system through a tangle of orange wiring, GM’s system features RF antennas integrated on circuit boards. The antennas allow the transfer of data via a 2.4-gigahertz wireless protocol similar to Bluetooth but with lower power. Slave modules report back to an onboard master, sending measurements of cell voltages and other data. That onboard master can also talk through the cloud to GM."

"The upshot is cradle-to-grave monitoring of battery health and operation, including real-time data from drivers in wildly different climates or usage cases. That all-seeing capability includes vast inventories of batteries—even before workers install them in cars on assembly lines."

GM is working with Analog Devices (NASDAQ:ADI) on the project that could be shared across model platforms.
 

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They will know where, when and how fast. You will not be modding. Insurance companies will have access, because you won't be insured unless you agree to them monitoring you. Depressing future guys. It isn't just battery health they will be watching.

GM's wireless battery breakthrough draws buzz
Sep. 9, 2020 8:34 AM ET|About: General Motors Company (GM)|By: Clark Schultz, SA News Editor


IEEE Spectrum is posting information on its exclusive look at General Motors' (NYSE:GM) wireless battery management system that is drawing notice in engineering circles.

"Unlike today’s battery modules, which link up to an on-board management system through a tangle of orange wiring, GM’s system features RF antennas integrated on circuit boards. The antennas allow the transfer of data via a 2.4-gigahertz wireless protocol similar to Bluetooth but with lower power. Slave modules report back to an onboard master, sending measurements of cell voltages and other data. That onboard master can also talk through the cloud to GM."

"The upshot is cradle-to-grave monitoring of battery health and operation, including real-time data from drivers in wildly different climates or usage cases. That all-seeing capability includes vast inventories of batteries—even before workers install them in cars on assembly lines."

GM is working with Analog Devices (NASDAQ:ADI) on the project that could be shared across model platforms.

This needs to be like software where it's either anonymous for bug fixes or you can opt out. Not liking the direction some of this is taking.
 

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Already happening via the Telematics Control Module in new vehicles. Scroll through and read this...

https://owner.ford.com/fordpass/fordpass-privacy-policy.html

Ford is sharing this data with insurance companies, depending on what you may or may not have agreed to.

  • Driving Characteristics, such as speed, use of accelerator, brakes, steering, seat belts, and other similar information about how the vehicle is used.
 

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Already happening via the Telematics Control Module in new vehicles. Scroll through and read this...

https://owner.ford.com/fordpass/fordpass-privacy-policy.html

Ford is sharing this data with insurance companies, depending on what you may or may not have agreed to.

  • Driving Characteristics, such as speed, use of accelerator, brakes, steering, seat belts, and other similar information about how the vehicle is used.
WOW! Now that is news I hadn't heard before. Thanks for posting the link.
 

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There are a few recents threads elsewhere about disabling the TCM so that it can't forward data collected to Ford. If you have a 2020 Ford Big Brother is definitely watching.
 

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Just an example, using Ford's ETIS site I took a look at my own car and the numerous control modules. My '20 GT500 reached the end of the assembly line on 11/13/19. This is denoted on the screenshot below. So all the modules became fired up and operational on that day. I highlighted the Telematics module in yellow and note that it decided to hook up to the mothership on its own on 3/8/20.

Ford ETIS Late Aug 2020 highlighted.jpg


The lines highlighted in red were because Ford now has updated calibrations available for the engine and transmission control modules and I did that for reference to the calibration numbers.
 

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"The upshot is cradle-to-grave monitoring of battery health and operation, including real-time data from drivers in wildly different climates or usage cases. That all-seeing capability includes vast inventories of batteries—even before workers install them in cars on assembly lines."

Not just the fact that they'll have all your data recorded, but note this part- it's part of a push to move product to market faster. Who needs to go through extensive pre-production testing to weed out problems when you can just ship them all out to the field and test them then in all sorts of applications? There's going to be a whole lot of customers becoming the beta testers...

It is ok guys, a Souper Injuneer on this very forum said this stuff is impossible.

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Not just the fact that they'll have all your data recorded, but note this part- it's part of a push to move product to market faster. Who needs to go through extensive pre-production testing to weed out problems when you can just ship them all out to the field and test them then in all sorts of applications? There's going to be a whole lot of customers becoming the beta testers...

Tesla says hi.
 

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Already happening via the Telematics Control Module in new vehicles. Scroll through and read this...

https://owner.ford.com/fordpass/fordpass-privacy-policy.html

Ford is sharing this data with insurance companies, depending on what you may or may not have agreed to.

  • Driving Characteristics, such as speed, use of accelerator, brakes, steering, seat belts, and other similar information about how the vehicle is used.
I just signed up for this. How do I unregister? If I do will it stop the collection?
 

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It is ok guys, a Souper Injuneer on this very forum said this stuff is impossible.


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Haha. I remember that guy flat out telling me my 19 Redeye didn’t do what I watched it do while sitting in the drivers seat.....

Gotta love those “experts”.

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Slave modules report back to an onboard master, sending measurements of cell voltages and other data. .

Unbelievable language!

Let’s protest and cancel theses bigots!

In the meantime, heading to Target for free shit.




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