7.3L Godzilla Runs 10s, Stock, in a Cobra Jet

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Seems cheap to me.

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lol true. Like i said before.. if i had your money, i'd throw mine i the trash.

Well, yes but no.

how many factory 445ci LS motors are you pulling from the wrecking yard? I don’t know what the max will be for this engine but i would expect to get close to 500ci when stroked.

Good point! I dont disagree
 

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Yeah, it's not about the car's setup. It's about how much potential this engine has as a cheap swap. There are going to be tons of these things in junkyards in the next few years and bolt-ons should hit 600hp and fully built all-motor setups pushing over 800hp. This motor is outrageous.

Agreed. Wish this was around when I put a stroker 408 in my Jeep. Builder said 495-505hp. Cost was close to same I suppose


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Definitely keeping my eye on this engine. This thing in a fox body would be insane, I think my 92 coupe is talking to me. Comparing this to a junkyard LS isn't exactly fair. It looks like a bargain compared to a crate LS7.
 

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To me it falls in line with being more in the average or on the lower side for a new engine. $7k is actually really cheap for a brand new motor out of the box, and especially for one with so much potential. I buy reman motors for cars that to the customer cost on average $3500-4500 and that is for every day, run of the mill vehicles. Remans for like BMWs is anywhere from $6k-11k which would be just for their basic 3.0L inline 6. A reman 5.7 HEMI Long Block is $6k alone so not even fully dressed.
Meh, $7k for a long block. You are into $10k to get it running.

Guys can build a seriously nasty LS swap for that type of cash.

You need to find a new reman builder. A 5.7 is like $3,500 anymore.

You can buy a brand new 6.4L for $5,500.

Part: MOP-R8193010AA

I get thr 7.3 has a whole extra litre, but a 6.4 Apache still makes 485hp and is no slouch.
 

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Meh, $7k for a long block. You are into $10k to get it running.

Guys can build a seriously nasty LS swap for that type of cash.

You need to find a new reman builder. A 5.7 is like $3,500 anymore.

You can buy a brand new 6.4L for $5,500.

Part: MOP-R8193010AA

I get thr 7.3 has a whole extra litre, but a 6.4 Apache still makes 485hp and is no slouch.

I made it pretty clear that's not what I buy them for and my retail price is within a few hundred plus or minus of what the manufacturer suggests. A lot of it is warranty costs but that is built into all motors. In my comparison I was stating that a long block Hemi 5.7 is $6k. When you are swapping a motor you don't have to put another $4k into it to get it running when you have the parts from the original motor. This is repairs we are talking about, not performance swaps, and it was just to compare a much lesser quality reman motor's cost to the cost of a brand new complete motor out of the box. $7k isn't a lot for a brand new motor like this.

BTW, I purchase from the largest engine suppliers in the nation with the best warranties that are able to deliver to me within days so we're talking LKQ, Jasper, GM parts, Ford parts, etc, but mostly LKQ because they top everyone usually in all categories. There's smaller suppliers sure, like FMP's powertrain company they use, but I have priced them out too and they are on average $300-400 more and they take significantly longer usually.
 

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Meh, $7k for a long block. You are into $10k to get it running.

Guys can build a seriously nasty LS swap for that type of cash.

You need to find a new reman builder. A 5.7 is like $3,500 anymore.

You can buy a brand new 6.4L for $5,500.

Part: MOP-R8193010AA

I get thr 7.3 has a whole extra litre, but a 6.4 Apache still makes 485hp and is no slouch.


The 7.3 is a truck engine and rated as such. The 6.4 is in a performance car.
 

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The 7.3 is a truck engine and rated as such. The 6.4 is in a performance car.

Exactly.

And just like truck engines, the 7.3 was built to put in SuperDutys and tow things so the intake manifold and camshaft were designed with that in mind. Torque oriented. Compared to the 6.4, an engine with higher compression & designed for performance, HP oriented. So it's kinda hard to compare the two just based on their stock forms. Not saying the Godzilla will be or is better than the Apache engine but rather that I think it might be a popular swap with lots of potential.

And in my experience, LS swaps are only cheap if you put a junkyard motor in it. I just built a 6.2L LS for my truck and parts cost racks up quickly, I could have easily bought a new 7.3 longblock.
 

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Exactly.

And just like truck engines, the 7.3 was built to put in SuperDutys and tow things so the intake manifold and camshaft were designed with that in mind. Torque oriented. Compared to the 6.4, an engine with higher compression & designed for performance, HP oriented. So it's kinda hard to compare the two just based on their stock forms. Not saying the Godzilla will be or is better than the Apache engine but rather that I think it might be a popular swap with lots of potential.

And in my experience, LS swaps are only cheap if you put a junkyard motor in it. I just built a 6.2L LS for my truck and parts cost racks up quickly, I could have easily bought a new 7.3 longblock.
Uh, wut?

6.4 liter Hemi truck engines for Ram pickups and chassis cabs
 

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I made it pretty clear that's not what I buy them for and my retail price is within a few hundred plus or minus of what the manufacturer suggests. A lot of it is warranty costs but that is built into all motors. In my comparison I was stating that a long block Hemi 5.7 is $6k. When you are swapping a motor you don't have to put another $4k into it to get it running when you have the parts from the original motor. This is repairs we are talking about, not performance swaps, and it was just to compare a much lesser quality reman motor's cost to the cost of a brand new complete motor out of the box. $7k isn't a lot for a brand new motor like this.

BTW, I purchase from the largest engine suppliers in the nation with the best warranties that are able to deliver to me within days so we're talking LKQ, Jasper, GM parts, Ford parts, etc, but mostly LKQ because they top everyone usually in all categories. There's smaller suppliers sure, like FMP's powertrain company they use, but I have priced them out too and they are on average $300-400 more and they take significantly longer usually.
So if we are just talking Truck repairs, swapping out long blocks.

The $7k for a 7.3, still isn't a smoking deal or anything.

GM 6.0 Truck engine is $5,700 brand new with intake, water pump, pulleys, throttle body, Coils +plugs, manifolds, etc. (dressed minus accessories) part : 12677741

Stripped Long Block is $4,200. Part : 19370163
 

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Oh wonderful, you didn't read what I said lol. No biggie. If you look back though, there was conversations regarding the 6.4 Apache engine compared to the Godzilla and that's what I referenced and mentioned by name, not the 6.4L hemi truck engine. So that point was missed.

However, now that you brought up the truck version of the 6.4, we can obviously compare them. The link you posted shows the truck 6.4 having 367-410 HP and 410-429 TQ (depending on the chassis) vs. 430 HP / 475 TQ for the Godzilla. Not sure if anything else is different on the truck hemi vs it's Apache brother.
 

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So if we are just talking Truck repairs, swapping out long blocks.

The $7k for a 7.3, still isn't a smoking deal or anything.

GM 6.0 Truck engine is $5,700 brand new with intake, water pump, pulleys, throttle body, Coils +plugs, manifolds, etc. (dressed minus accessories) part : 12677741

Stripped Long Block is $4,200. Part : 19370163

And how many decades has the 6.0 been out for? The 7.3 prices will drop in time. You'll likely be able to get one new for around $5500 in the next couple years.
 

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And how many decades has the 6.0 been out for? The 7.3 prices will drop in time. You'll likely be able to get one new for around $5500 in the next couple years.

7.3 also makes way more power out of the gate at 7k than the 6.0 does.

Its amazing how people beg Ford for an affordable big V8 and when they make it, those same folks complain about it.
 

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I'm looking at the OEM pricing of the 5.7 Hemi Long Block for a Ram right now. MSRP of $6,650.00. I would have to contact the dealer for the price of the complete engine, but that should give a better idea as to the cost comparisons between brands.

Also, a 2019 6.0L Long Block out of the Silverado MSRPs for $4366.77.
 
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I'm more interested in the used market. That's going to be where the value is found, but, we have to wait. Too early right now.

With the guys who built one specifically for boost and got 780hp out of the engine, N/A, my 800hp for a fully built N/A mill was being super conservative. I really don't doubt you'll see somebody break 1000hp N/A not too far off.
 

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So if we are just talking Truck repairs, swapping out long blocks.

The $7k for a 7.3, still isn't a smoking deal or anything.

GM 6.0 Truck engine is $5,700 brand new with intake, water pump, pulleys, throttle body, Coils +plugs, manifolds, etc. (dressed minus accessories) part : 12677741

Stripped Long Block is $4,200. Part : 19370163

The 7.3 is a complete engine for $7k, not a long block.

What if I told you that a cam swap will net close to triple digits on a 7.3L?
 

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