Dodge Just Took The Gloves Off!

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congratulations to the left leaning **** on this forum for killing a hobby they proclaim to love…keep voting blue and for faggots that don’t know which bathroom to use.

Pretty much.

FCA was one of the last car manufactures holding out for lax EPA fuel economy numbers IIRC.
Ford and others were still striving to meet future stricter demands even when Trump was still in office. Fed mandates and the Cali nazi board.

Republican goes out, Dem comes in and now the stricter mandates are back on the menu for the foreseeable future.

I can't blame FCA for having to go this route so they don't get even more fines for not being compliant.

May get flamed for this, but as more go towards EV, I'm at least glad FCA is investing in faster EVs that should help drive the prices down eventually.

Not wanting an EV, but it's going to be inevitable the way they are pushing it. Only a matter of time before the gas tax shoots way up to fund their infrastructure bill to pay for EV chargers everywhere.
 

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That's the thing, the powers that be want ... to limit personal movement.

I agree with this. I don't really even think this is a conspiracy theory anymore.

You and I know that the electric grid can not possibly support more and more people owning EV's. The powers that be are like, yeah.... duh.... That's the goal.
 

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I love this whole "electric is the future" bullshit. Oh really, tell me how that would be working out right now if 10% or 20% of the cars in Texas were EV. People who think that either no idea the condition of our existing grid or how long it would take to get it to accommodate the load of even a small incremental increase in EV's, or they live in blue states and think la-la thoughts.

yup they are telling us not to use our AC when it’s 105 outside due to power
 

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Pretty much.

FCA was one of the last car manufactures holding out for lax EPA fuel economy numbers IIRC.
Ford and others were still striving to meet future stricter demands even when Trump was still in office. Fed mandates and the Cali nazi board.

Republican goes out, Dem comes in and now the stricter mandates are back on the menu for the foreseeable future.

I can't blame FCA for having to go this route so they don't get even more fines for not being compliant.

May get flamed for this, but as more go towards EV, I'm at least glad FCA is investing in faster EVs that should help drive the prices down eventually.

Not wanting an EV, but it's going to be inevitable the way they are pushing it. Only a matter of time before the gas tax shoots way up to fund their infrastructure bill to pay for EV chargers everywhere.

Meh. It doenst matter who is in power. This time next year the news cycles will be predicting a GOP midterm sweep and all of the points you made above will be moot as it pertains to Democrats.

The point is, these Corporations dont care who's in office.. they are virtue signaling to the communists and will continue to do so until folks STOP buying their products forcing a re-think of the business model or their Executive boards kick them out (not likely).
 

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Sales wise the Viper was a failure. Performance wise, the Viper punched way above its weight.

The Dart was pure aids though. I agree that Dodge's current lineup is super dated. You can compare their lineup from 2014 to 2022 and its almost identical

The build quality of the Viper was junk compared to Ferrari or Porsche. In a straight line, it got raped. The quickest tested Viper ran 11.3. The 720S ran 9.90s. I could go on but I'll spare everyone my disappointment in Dodge.
 

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That's the thing, the powers that be want to remove personal vehicle ownership from everyone's driveways. What better way to be able to control populace than being able to limit personal movement. Make cost of ownership and charging/fueling up so high nobody wants to buy cars anymore. Economically force everyone into public mass transit, but limit how much they can use a day or who can access it (vax passport style). Boom.

I wish I was born in the 40's and was dead already and got to see and live in America at its utmost peak.

Bingo. That's what this is about. People can say its a conspiracy theory all they want but its pretty obvious where this is going.
 

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I’m all for hopping in a wild fast electric car. Everyone is bitching and crying like you can’t also keep an ICE vehicle around for the experience of driving it on the weekends.

that’s my plan at least. Buy a Gen V viper for weekend fun next and when the time comes I need a new daily, jump into something electric.

If they get their way there won't be anymore ICE vehicles. That's the point.
 

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The irony of fast electric cars is it defeats the purpose of being more environmentally responsible and energy conscience. If our goal was truely to save the planet, electric cars would be as frugal as possible with incredible range and use as few kWh/mile as possible. Instead we are producing wildly fast vehicles that consume battery power like crazy. Aside from great marketing, what's the point? Seems like another rouse to me. Wealth transfer at it's finest.
 

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The irony of fast electric cars is it defeats the purpose of being more environmentally responsible and energy conscience. If our goal was truely to save the planet, electric cars would be as frugal as possible with incredible range and use as few kWh/mile as possible. Instead we are producing wildly fast vehicles that consume battery power like crazy. Aside from great marketing, what's the point? Seems like another rouse to me. Wealth transfer at it's finest.
Yup. This is why I don't understand why people would buy a Porsche Taycan.
 

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The irony of fast electric cars is it defeats the purpose of being more environmentally responsible and energy conscience. If our goal was truely to save the planet, electric cars would be as frugal as possible with incredible range and use as few kWh/mile as possible. Instead we are producing wildly fast vehicles that consume battery power like crazy. Aside from great marketing, what's the point? Seems like another rouse to me. Wealth transfer at it's finest.

Cause there's a demand for fast cars and EV doesn't have any standards yet for range that I know of(or at least as strict as gas engines).

IMO car manufactures don't give a **** about anything green other than money.

Most consumers don't know/care how EV's are made, or that oil is in everything from skin care, solvents, produce electricity etc...

It's a simple line of thinking of no tailpipe=eco friendly and oil=bad.
 

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Until the next rolling blackout! Fossil fuels FTW! Other means of energy have been proven to not meet the demand. Green is a joke.
Fossil fuels will run out though or become too expensive to extract. Not if but when. It is a finite resource.

Earth / Humanity needs to become a Type 1 level Civilization. Right now it is apparently at about 0.7

Type I

Technological level of a civilization that is "close to the level presently attained on Earth, with energy consumption at ≈4×1019 erg/sec" (4×1012 watts).[1] Currently, the civilization of Type I is usually defined as one that can harness all the energy that falls on a planet from its parent star (for Earth–Sun system, this value is close to 1.74×1017 watts), which is about four orders of magnitude higher than the amount presently attained on Earth, with energy consumption at ≈2×1013 watts. The astronomer Guillermo A. Lemarchand stated this as a level near contemporary terrestrial civilization with an energy capability equivalent to the solar insolation on Earth, between 1016 and 1017 watts.[2]

Type II

A civilization capable of harnessing the energy radiated by its own star—for example, the stage of successful construction of a Dyson sphere or Matrioshka brain —with energy consumption at ≈4×1033 erg/sec.[1] Lemarchand stated this as a civilization capable of using and channeling the entire radiation output of its star. The energy use would then be comparable to the luminosity of the Sun, about 4×1033 erg/sec (4×1026 watts).[2]

Type III

A civilization in possession of energy at the scale of its own galaxy, with energy consumption at ≈4×1044 erg/sec.[1] Lemarchand stated this as a civilization with access to the power comparable to the luminosity of the entire Milky Way galaxy, about 4×1044 erg/sec (4×1037 watts).[2]

Kardashev scale - Wikipedia

 

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