When will be the time to pull the trigger on building your car

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If you think that the retards in power will wait until the grid can handle EVs to push it down the throat of the country then you are as retarded as the politicians.

They are not concerned just like the elite are not concerned about the grid because they will have contingency plans for themselves. And they are not concerned about you peasants.


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coool story, bro

Pretty much every automaker announced they will be phasing out ICE vehicles. It is over. If someone wants an awesome high performance vehicle brand new, now is pretty much the time to buy. I put my money where my mouth is and ordered a new '22 ZL1 1LE. What are you buying?

You will love that ZL1 1LE. Trying to convince my wife to get one.

If you think that the retards in power will wait until the grid can handle EVs to push it down the throat of the country then you are as retarded as the politicians.

They are not concerned just like the elite are not concerned about the grid because they will have contingency plans for themselves. And they are not concerned about you peasants.


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This. There are so many problems going to EV its almost laughable. But it doesn’t matter. The powers at be couldn’t give 2 shits about the peasants.




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GOV: EVs are the future! There are charging stations everywhere!

Also GOV: Don’t charge your cars. We are out of electricity.

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Literally, the only parts of the globe that are breathlessly spreading their ass cheeks for EVS are Canada, Western europe, and the blue state of the US. Asia, Africa, and Eastern Europe encompass about 6 billion of the 7 billion of the world's population and are going to make up an ever increasing share of the automotive market over the next 30-50 years. 98% of that part of the world cannot support EVs with their decrepit infrastructure.
Here is your BFF talking about the benefits of EVs and gushing over an EV truck loooool Donald "I’m all for electric cars" Trump


So when are you gonna put your money where your mouth is and buy a brand new high performance ICE vehicle?
 

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Here is your BFF talking about the benefits of EVs and gushing over an EV truck loooool Donald "I’m all for electric cars" Trump


So when are you gonna put your money where your mouth is and buy a brand new high performance ICE vehicle?

But I only heard Trump say this is "the wave of the future" which implies a lot of things but it doesn't imply that electric is the sole future for personal transportation. It's the states and the manufacturers mandating electric for the future and it's simply a premature bet. They're saying that to gain publicity and attract new buyers to the brand who are naive or moronic enough to believe it is possible; it's part of transforming their image. It all hinges on the infrastructure being able to handle the increased capacity and when it can't you know they are going to revert back to ICE being the dominant product again. It would be suicide hinging their bet on electric knowing full well the infrastructure isn't there to support their plans.
 

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It's definitely a really good time to get into bicycles!!!

Big money in the future!!
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Here is your BFF talking about the benefits of EVs and gushing over an EV truck loooool Donald "I’m all for electric cars" Trump

You mean the same guy that put into place policies which made gas the cheapest it's been in how long? The same guy who lifted regulations and allowed US companies to actually tap into our own resources instead of buying it from countries who hate us?
 

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Manufacturers are embracing EVs and I have a theory why.

1. Like Tesla is currently doing, other manufacturers are going to jump on the ship and use Tesla as leverage on only allowing manufacturers to repair the vehicles.

2. They are going to outline a strict recharge process and they will keep track of it via the ECU. If you do not charge how they outline, they will refuse warranty on the batteries.

3. I bet they will start coming out with "suggested" battery replacement intervals. I bet your car will start, annoyingly, notifying you when battery replacement is nearing. They will institute a hard stop on where the car locks itself up "because the battery becomes a liability" and the replacement will be very expensive.

4. If you try to modify the car in any way, outside of tint and wheels, the car will brick itself and they will charge you a fee to unlock it after they void your warranty.

Manufacturers are seeing the control Tesla has over it's cult and they want a piece of that Jim Jones Kool Aid.
 

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2035 is a false flag. Won't happen. Not going to be doable unless major breakthroughs occur. Not to mention OE's tend to ride the wave of the current POTUS. If our next president drinks diesel and shits coal, Ford will be flying the "All our vehicles will be diesel powered by 2035"

I expect an electric option on every model by 2035. But not an all electric dealer lot with no ICE vehicles.
 

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2035 is a false flag. Won't happen. Not going to be doable unless major breakthroughs occur. Not to mention OE's tend to ride the wave of the current POTUS. If our next president drinks diesel and shits coal, Ford will be flying the "All our vehicles will be diesel powered by 2035"

I expect an electric option on every model by 2035. But not an all electric dealer lot with no ICE vehicles.

When has whether or not something has been “doable” been a concern of government agencies when it comes to enforcement?

Didn’t the manufacturers and even scientists come together to tell the EPA that the technology wasn’t there for some regulations and standards imposed during Odumbo and yet the EPA stated it didn’t give a ****?


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Literally, the only parts of the globe that are breathlessly spreading their ass cheeks for EVS are Canada, Western europe, and the blue state of the US. Asia, Africa, and Eastern Europe encompass about 6 billion of the 7 billion of the world's population and are going to make up an ever increasing share of the automotive market over the next 30-50 years. 98% of that part of the world cannot support EVs with their decrepit infrastructure.

All spot on shit, follow the money. Future markets=big money.
 

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Not to mention OE's tend to ride the wave of the current POTUS. .
That is not a significant factor.. The OEs have to build vehicles on global platforms that meet regional market's requirements. They also plan vehicles years in advance.

Didn’t the manufacturers and even scientists come together to tell the EPA that the technology wasn’t there for some regulations and standards imposed during Odumbo and yet the EPA stated it didn’t give a ****?

Well yeah, those companies didn't have a competitive advantage so of course they would want to keep the status quo or have relaxed standards. GM and Ford are actually quite competitive now because they have made significant upgrades in technological processes and R&D. This provides them with a significant advantage as it leads to a widening technology gap that makes it difficult for their competitors to compete in the short and medium term. Look how late some major OEs are to the EV game. The reasons why these companies are late are due to two factors: the cost of switching and the lack of knowledge. They are screwed. FCA would have been screwed royally without the merger.
 

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Well yeah, those companies didn't have a competitive advantage so of course they would want to keep the status quo or have relaxed standards. GM and Ford are actually quite competitive now because they have made significant upgrades in technological processes and R&D. This provides them with a significant advantage as it leads to a widening technology gap that makes it difficult for their competitors to compete in the short and medium term. Look how late some major OEs are to the EV game. The reasons why these companies are late are due to two factors: the cost of switching and the lack of knowledge. They are screwed. FCA would have been screwed royally without the merger.

What I was talking about had nothing to do with car manufacturers. I do not remember the industry. It had nothing to do with a “competitive advantage”. It was 100% based on the fact that the entire industry and scientists came together to fight the EPA because the technology needed to meet the EPA regulations did not exist outside of theory and small scale models. It was impossible at the time for large scale adoption and the EPA didn’t give a ****.


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What I was talking about had nothing to do with car manufacturers. I do not remember the industry. It had nothing to do with a “competitive advantage”. It was 100% based on the fact that the entire industry and scientists came together to fight the EPA because the technology needed to meet the EPA regulations did not exist outside of theory and small scale models. It was impossible at the time for large scale adoption and the EPA didn’t give a ****.


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The technology exists. Those particular manufacturers just didn't bother to spend the money on R&D, which is their fault.

Please link any articles you are referring to...
 

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The technology exists. Those particular manufacturers just didn't bother to spend the money on R&D, which is their fault.

Please link any articles you are referring to...

1. Why are you even a car fan if you like getting bent over by government agencies? Isn’t there a Prius forum, I think grinder.com, for you guys.

2. Why don’t you prove to us that everything the EPA is based in unbiased science and is able to be done regardless of scale and is budget friendly for every business.


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1. Why are you even a car fan if you like getting bent over by government agencies? Isn’t there a Prius forum, I think grinder.com, for you guys.

2. Why don’t you prove to us that everything the EPA is based in unbiased science and is able to be done regardless of scale and is budget friendly for every business.
You aren't much of a business person, are you? If I had a car that met all of the regulations and have sunk engineering costs, you better believe I'd push for stringent regulations to have a serious competitive advantage over my competitors. This is exactly why certain automakers are pushing their EV plans so hard now. Their competitors are so far behind and they continue to lose market share to them. Of course the FCAs of the world would complain about these regulations.
 

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You aren't much of a business person, are you? If I had a car that met all of the regulations and have sunk engineering costs, you better believe I'd push for stringent regulations to have a serious competitive advantage over my competitors. This is exactly why certain automakers are pushing their EV plans so hard now. Their competitors are so far behind and they continue to lose market share to them. Of course the FCAs of the world would complain about these regulations.

Do you read? Do you comprehend what you read? If you did you would know and comprehend that when I stated the manufacturers stating what the EPA put in place regulation wise was not in the auto manufacturing industry. I do not remember what it was but I know it was not auto manufacturing. So not cars or trucks if you need it explained further. Maybe you have too much maple syrup gumming up the brain.

And you act like there is not financial incentives for these manufacturers to go EV. The auto manufacturers pushed back on the EPA until Retard Joe and Sloppy Hoe got in office. Why? That guburment monies.

But let us look at more EPA bafoonery, shall we? The EPA states that E85 is an environmental friendly fuel. Yet, by their own enforcement, converting a vehicle not flex fuel from the factory is illegal. Why? Because it is really not about the environment, it is about money and fines.

**** the EPA and **** people that defend the EPA.


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