Spoken like a true SVTP'er. ROFL.
10.8@127mph - 4200lbs race weight
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Spoken like a true SVTP'er. ROFL.
Go Reread what I said.
You are contradicting yourself. Guy claimed $500 would get you 700whp... It won't.
$500 buys you a hand held, you just said that your self. You then list a bunch of other mods to get a 476whp number... Once again, supporting thr notion that $500 does not get you 700whp, and it can only get you 450whp on a very very bargain hunters budget.
i was talking about financing the extra 30k for higher models, over just financing a base and paying out of pocket, if the goal is 9 seconds
Why buy a new car at all then?
Buy a SN95, a 5.3, built Power glide, built 9" and a +90mm turbo.
8's all day for under $20k. Buy used parts and save more.
because thats an strwman argument. were talking about the same years, same body, same tech , 90% the same, except for the addition of extra horsepower.
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My 2018 301a GT was ~34k once negotiations were done. Paid cash for my twin turbo set up and all mods. The car has gone 10.5@139 with 7-8 psi leaving off the footbrake with a 1.8x 60 foot. Sooooooooooo much more in it even at this boost level.
It'll trap near 150s with real boost pressure (14 psi or so) and some better technique in the first half of the track.
No, your talking New vs New +Modified.
Okay, buy an FRS for $25k, sell the powertrain for $7k, then drop in a 5.3, Powerglide and turbo. Run 8's.
Why by a Z06 over a Stingray? A GT over an Ecoboost? Raptor over 2.7?
How much total do you have into yours now and was it all purchased new?
Don’t get me wrong guys I fully understand the savings overall in building, I’ve done it before. For me I’m just at a point in my life where I want turn key fun with no need to add or change anything. There is a price to be paid for that and I’m ok with it, just like many are ok with paying an ADM and I refuse to do that.
We’re all fools spending money on cars that could be better spent elsewhere I’m sure but it’s all part of this hobby passion whatever you call it of ours.
LOL.
A base Mustang will always be just a base Mustang! That's the argument and i agree to a point. That point is, "it depends on what you want to do with the car".
If you want resale value, you obviously buy a GT500 over a Mustang GT.
If you want to simply crack 9's, you buy the cheapest Mustang GT you can get and go get it on the cheap.
But then we are back to the "why not buy a $500 Honda Prelude and throw $10k at it to run 9's".
All fair points. Definitely something to be said for simply turning the key and unleashing brute factory power.
My turbo kit, fueling, 3" exhaust was all bought new. I have under $6k into the whole thing. Rear DRs were left over from other projects as were the Tial products (WG's and BOV) in my turbo kit.
Not bad at all! If I had more time on my hands and wanted to build something a bit, a loaded GT or even a used GT350 with a TT kit sure would be hard to say no to.
Check out the smog. They need the New Green Deal asap.
Curt@injected
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Exactly how big a nitrous shot are we spraying on this thing dry without tuning to make 700 whp with $500? Once?
Paid off debt after debt the last two years and going bam bam bam bam through it. I got disgusted of my financial standings and took a stand. Go read up on Dave Ramsey. Guy is smart, he’s on the radio every weeknight also do these SVTPers you speak of bring in $90k+ after tax and put it all towards debt after living expenses while wearing sneakers with holes, daily driving 10-20year old vehicles and cooking their own dinner every night? If they don’t then tell em to get on my level. Live like no one else today so you can live and give like no one else tomorrow.
I agree guys was way off.
You were off though that it takes all those mods you said for 450whp. Pulley, maf, cai, handheld and a belt gets 450+ for under $500. Don’t need the name brand cai etc. It can cost $1500 if you buy fancy though.
$500 can buy you the newest handheld, back then $169 bought you a diablosport which was all you needed.
Didn’t contradict anything. Your assuming the most expensive parts, that’s not what people buy though em mass.
Re read my post, you’ll see where you jumped the gun, and where you over quoted the easy mods for 450whp. I quoted you because you implied it takes exhaust and so on to hit maybe 450whp for $xxxx’s of money. It just doesn’t.
Happy vday, not riding you but you’re exaggerating. He was exaggerating the other way that 700whp is possible for $500.
Amateurs don’t use nitrous oxide, but winnings winning. Doesn’t matter if you win by an inch or a mile.
My bet? The magic 300 dryshot. Ain’t nothing like a 300 dry shot on a stock cobra, it’s what all the cool kids run
(Total sarcasm, I completely agree with you)
no, im talking new vs new+modifed that cant be done otherwise
base GT vs base challenger to get to "demon" performance 1/4 mile
base GT Vs base challenger vs base GT500 to get to "demon" performance 1/4 mile
base GT vs base challenger vs base GT500 to get to 'demon" performance road course
the 350/500 have enough unobtainable differences to warrant a higher price tag. things that the aftermarket cannot do better, nore more affordably
i agree, but the cost difference, is too high on most cars, ford and GM can demand higher prices because of what i already stated above. for dodge, it make 0 sense to me. which again, is why they cling to that word "STOCK"
the cars will soon be out of warranty anyway, so "warrantied" argument only goes so far.
40k additonal price tag+5k in interest or 10k in aftermarket parts, and continue to be smart and keep some money on the side to handle any out of warranty issues. 9s isnt hard, throw a whipple, some fuel, tune it, and tires. bang, done
I think they just do it because idiots like me are willing to pay the price LOL.
Really though from what you’ve said we’re in a similar area or roughly similar buying area (I’m in MD outside of hunt valley) people just seem to line up to piss money away. I’ve already talked to friends at a large local ford dealer and they are expecting 20-30k msrp on GT500s which I have no doubt will sell like hot cakes though haha.
Me however I’m younger and just started a family, bought a house and bought two new cars in the past year. I’ll be sitting on the sideline for at least a year to watch prices then I’ll truly decide if I go with a Hellcat varient (likely Redeye) or of o could spring for a GT500. As much as I long for a viper I’d want something with at least a small back seat so my wife and son can ride in as well.
Im familiar with Dave Ramsey. Im just not willing to live in poverty for 3-5 years to make it happen LOL.
Also...$90k is a great salary for a young guy like you so congrats.
Yea 3-5 years is a huge chunk of time to be living like you’re broke. I’d rather liver with in my means as I do currently and not have to daily a beater or worn busted shoes etc.
Obviously people shouldn’t carry credit debt, but a 10-12 year plan to pay off say a house loan isn’t a hateful choice.
i hear ya, the badge/ego goes a long way in buying things. I think we are local, im familair with the hunt valley horsepower group as well. And same thing, i have racercars, but to buy a nice big new house, i had to sell all my shit, and start over, so your doing it right. now i want a weekend car that has a backseat for the same reason as you.
From VA-NY, every dealer has told me 20-30k over. im offering 5+ other incentives, at this point id take even 10k, if its the true 1st allocation.
but to me, the ONLY reason 350/500 is on the table is because it absolutely cannot be replicated for less $ ( + a small amount of the styling).
tons of friends are "bro, just get a GT and mod it". but thats not happening, the combination this car has is unique
You are not making any sense.
Like what? We're not talking about a 370Z vs GTR. Nothing on either car can't be replicated by using a GT. You may not have a stupid DCT or 5.2, but all other metrics will be matched. Your not realistically converting a Z34 into an Awd supercar.
Soooo your argument isn't about Modified vs Stock Performance... Its you hate Mopar and think thr Demon is a waste of money?
Well they only made a handful of Demons and sold them for one year. It's a rare novelty car with tons of just cool marketing and trinkets - like thr crate. The everyman can now buy a Redeye or 1320.
Dodge is doing thr best they can given their situation and I applaud them for that. They struggled for resources to put out the new Ram, and they haven't had money to update the LX Platform. They'd LOVE to build a 3500lb more sports car nimble Challenger, they just don't have the capital.
My only gripe with them is the lack of effort in beefing up the internals on the 5.7 and 6.4 short blocks. Thats the real problem Fords short blocks sucked all the way up to the Coyote and with each Yote generation got better.
GM's LS/LQ engines have continued to get better and you can grab a ho-hum 5.3 and boost it to 600whp all day. You blow apart pistons and rods on the Hemis at those power levels and that really sucks. That's a major hold back to making the RT and SCAT anything but a cruiser or "should have just bought a Hellcat".
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