5.0 Fox vs 97 Cobra.. Who wins?

[mr2cam]

Ok I have 2 friends that are about to race, and I was wondering who you think will win this race.

97 Cobra - JLT CAI, 4.56 gears, M/T 275/40/17 DR's, flowmaster catback

89 Fox Vert - 93 5.0 Engine, 3.73's, 5speed, Toyo 275/40/17 street tires, MAC headers, Mac H-Pipe, Mac catback, BBK CAI, 6 point cage.

The fox just weighed in today at 3500 with a full tank and the 160lbs driver.

Who do you guys think wins from a roll? From a dig I think the Cobra will take it due to the tires. Were gonna do this race this weekend but I thought I would get some guesses before we go out. I think it will be a close race from a roll.

We will have video from the races btw and due multiple runs.

 

[Dusten]

Ok I have 2 friends that are about to race, and I was wondering who you think will win this race.

97 Cobra - JLT CAI, 4.56 gears, M/T 275/40/17 DR's, flowmaster catback

89 Fox Vert - 93 5.0 Engine, 3.73's, 5speed, Toyo 275/40/17 street tires, MAC headers, Mac H-Pipe, Mac catback, BBK CAI, 6 point cage.

The fox just weighed in today at 3500 with a full tank and the 160lbs driver.

Who do you guys think wins from a roll? From a dig I think the Cobra will take it due to the tires. Were gonna do this race this weekend but I thought I would get some guesses before we go out. I think it will be a close race from a roll.

march underdrive pullies, centerforce clutch, driver mod...

 

[mr2cam]

march underdrive pullies, centerforce clutch, driver mod...

Driver mod... psssh your the one that missed 3rd gear last night :lol1:

 

[whitey92lx]

from a dig and from a roll, I think the cobra will put about 1-2 cars on him before they both let off at 110. Stock H/C/I combo foxes, especially verts, are slow pigs. The BBK CAI is hurting his performance and the cobra has no business having 4.56 gears IMO.. no offense, just experience talking.. Get a AFN powerpipe and a cobra or gt40 intake at least if you wanna hang with a 97 cobra.. for a stock N/A mustang, they are no slouch.

 

[SVT543of2003]

from a dig and from a roll, I think the cobra will put about 1-2 cars on him before they both let off at 110. Stock H/C/I foxes, especially verts, are slow pigs. The BBK CAI is hurting his performance and the cobra has no business having 4.56 gears IMO..

An H/C/I fox will lay down close to 300 at the wheels. A stock 97 Cobra is about 300 bhp as well. In that match-up I call the fox the winner, but here where the OP didn't say the fox had heads, cam, intake etc and the Cobra has 4.56 gears, I give it to the Cobra if he can drive it like he stole it.

 

[Dusten]

from a dig and from a roll, I think the cobra will put about 1-2 cars on him before they both let off at 110. Stock H/C/I combo foxes, especially verts, are slow pigs. The BBK CAI is hurting his performance and the cobra has no business having 4.56 gears IMO.. no offense, just experience talking.. Get a AFN powerpipe and a cobra or gt40 intake at least if you wanna hang with a 97 cobra.. for a stock N/A mustang, they are no slouch.

the cobra with 4.56's is the 97, they are awesome gears for a car that never sees high way. The BBK CAI came on the car, i just bought it. Although, i dont see how its hurting anything.

The 89 is getting GT40 heads/intake and E cam next month. the parts are in my garage.

An H/C/I fox will lay down close to 300 at the wheels. A stock 97 Cobra is about 300 bhp as well. In that match-up I call the fox the winner, but here where the OP didn't say the fox had heads, cam, intake etc and the Cobra has 4.56 gears, I give it to the Cobra if he can drive it like he stole it.

no, the fox doesnt have HCI, not yet.

 

[Dusten]

Driver mod... psssh your the one that missed 3rd gear last night :lol1:

do i need to post the vid of you missing gears?

 

[SilverELEX]

from a dig and from a roll, I think the cobra will put about 1-2 cars on him before they both let off at 110. Stock H/C/I combo foxes, especially verts, are slow pigs. The BBK CAI is hurting his performance and the cobra has no business having 4.56 gears IMO.. no offense, just experience talking.. Get a AFN powerpipe and a cobra or gt40 intake at least if you wanna hang with a 97 cobra.. for a stock N/A mustang, they are no slouch.

Why do you say that? Those gears kick ass in a car like that. As for my opinion if the Cobra can get traction, it has the win easily.

 

[whitey92lx]

sure they would be great! unless you are actually going to be driving the car on a semi regular basis. IMO 4.10's are plenty of gear and almost too much for daily beating..

 

[whitey92lx]

the cobra with 4.56's is the 97, they are awesome gears for a car that never sees high way. The BBK CAI came on the car, i just bought it. Although, i dont see how its hurting anything.

The 89 is getting GT40 heads/intake and E cam next month. the parts are in my garage.


no, the fox doesnt have HCI, not yet.

Trust me.. I thought my BBK CAI was neat. Until I realized how hot it was really making my IAC and then I got a power pipe.. Night and day... :beer:
You have a good start.. With that setup and some longtubes.. you'll be in the high 12's easy..

 

[SilverELEX]

sure they would be great! unless you are actually going to be driving the car on a semi regular basis. IMO 4.10's are plenty of gear and almost too much for daily beating..

I drove my 97 with 4.30s every single day.

 

[Dusten]

Trust me.. I thought my BBK CAI was neat. Until I realized how hot it was really making my IAC and then I got a power pipe.. Night and day... :beer:
You have a good start.. With that setup and some longtubes.. you'll be in the high 12's easy..

i wont be going long tubes. the car is going to be a DD for a year in san diego. im no noob to 5.0's, my last car was a 94 cobra with gt40x heads, forged short block, KB, x cam, full exhaust, gears, locker... blah blah blah.

I want to race from a dig too.
I also have an auburn with the 3.73's, 31 splines, upper and lower control arms and a few other bits and pieces.

 

[whitey92lx]

Great! I cant wait to see the video!

 

[StangJason]

So how did the race(s) turn out? You are talking about missed gears but not the results.

I would say the 97 Cobra is a 13.0-13.4 car with said mods and a pretty good driver. I would say the Mustang Vert with said mods is a 14.0-14.4 with a pretty good driver assuming the engine is running strong. Most of the times I've seen from cars like these came in hot and muggy Montgomery, AL and I saw most close to stock Fox body Mustangs running 14s to 15s and mine seemed unusually strong for a close to stock Mustang, I was even accused of spraying my a Firebird owner after I beat his 14.4 1/4m.

See my sig for what an LX that weighed in around 3100lbs could do with a bit more mods than the vert.

 

[Dusten]

So how did the race(s) turn out? You are talking about missed gears but not the results.

I would say the 97 Cobra is a 13.0-13.4 car with said mods and a pretty good driver. I would say the Mustang Vert with said mods is a 14.0-14.4 with a pretty good driver assuming the engine is running strong. Most of the times I've seen from cars like these came in hot and muggy Montgomery, AL and I saw most close to stock Fox body Mustangs running 14s to 15s and mine seemed unusually strong for a close to stock Mustang, I was even accused of spraying my a Firebird owner after I beat his 14.4 1/4m.

See my sig for what an LX that weighed in around 3100lbs could do with a bit more mods than the vert.

tomorrow...
the missed gears is ribbing. we have know each other for years, and spend our summers at the local track.

 

[Stopsign32v]

the cobra with 4.56's is the 97, they are awesome gears for a car that never sees high way. The BBK CAI came on the car, i just bought it. Although, i dont see how its hurting anything.

The 89 is getting GT40 heads/intake and E cam next month. the parts are in my garage.

There is no way in hell the 5.0 with those h/c/i will keep up with a N/A DOHC Cobra with 4.56 gears unless the Cobra driver sucks. Now if we are talking AFR or TFS heads with a non ABC cam then I would say the 5.0.

 

[Dusten]

this particular NA DOHc cobra has a terrible driver...

 

[mystical]

Why do you say that? Those gears kick ass in a car like that. As for my opinion if the Cobra can get traction, it has the win easily.

+1. Hell, if the Cobra was stock he would still probably win (No offense to the fox owner) but with a shitty driver anything is possible.

 

[mpe331lx]

the cobra has no business having 4.56 gears IMO.. no offense, just experience talking..

How many 96-01 Cobras have you had with 4.56 of larger gears?

They are a little much on the highway, but are very livable in a dialy driver and are an absolute must to get the most performance out of these cars.

A 4.10 is the bare MINIMUM that I would put in an N/A 4.6 Cobra.


BTW, drivers aside, the Cobra will rape the Fox vert. Even with a mild H/C/I the cobra will probably win.

 

[Dusten]

+1. Hell, if the Cobra was stock he would still probably win (No offense to the fox owner) but with a shitty driver anything is possible.

i don't doubt he'll win. But, he owes me a little payback
here are a few video's. the silver L is mine, the black is my best friends
(the bike is mine too)
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I51PPUCVH0]YouTube - racing in ww[/ame]
and no, he wasnt really wheeling, he tried to turn around

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYF7_M-4BIs]YouTube - goofing off in Walla Walla[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oo8bawvaWQI]YouTube - MR2 vs Cobra[/ame]

and just for mr2cam, here is your missed shift...
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=352cb98bik8]YouTube - CT27 Accel[/ame]