Adjusting to Civilian Life

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Well dude take this how you want.... your transition or life after is how you want it to be. Trust me there is life after service, and more importantly you have to understand that no matter the branch you serve in, it will continue well after you leave it. That said, you gotta find your passion and do what you enjoy.

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I'm good, just left a career that hit all over the spectrum to a more monotone one. Just a different mindset between the two sectors that I'm apparently still working on. Chalk it up to a ruff day and missing the Military.
 

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It absolutely is about power. In the military one has a certain rank/position/power and that makes things hunky dory. But in the civilian side it is not so homogenous, so things are out of whack.

Every organization has a hierarchy.
 

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First off; you should stop with the military vs civilian bullshit. No one cares. anyone asshole can enlist and follow orders.

Second; You need to find what makes you tick and keeps your interest. If you can’t hack it in the real world without being held by the hand figure it out. 20 years in the military I have to assume you’re late thirties at youngest. You should know at least a little bit about yourself by now.

Third; the political climate? If the political climate in this country is a serious burden on your life you, you’re a loser. Seriously. You’re a loser. No one cares about your feelings, opinions, desires or dreams. That shit is on you. You need to dig deep and figure out how to find happiness. Use the tools you learned in the service. Your discipline, self reliance team building and team work to make a better life and stop blaming other people. Don’t be a product of your environment make your environment a product of you.


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The three of you should start a counseling group for Vets with PTSD. I can just see the suicide rates fall tremendously. All the compassion! LOL!
 

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My perspective is from a guy who's never been in the service, but several close friends who have...

The time my best friend, my best man in my wedding, a guy who I spent more time in my life (now outside of my wife) close to, was/is a Marine, and it made him a different person. When he would come home on leave, we weren't even close to the same as we once were. I love that guy, but he had guys around him that he had the mindset that he would take that bullet for them, and quite possibly, I wasn't one of them.

Another close buddy came back from some serious combat time and I don't even know him anymore. His service seriously F'd him over and haven't talked to him for 5+ years. He's been divorced twice (I think) and the last I talked with him, I didn't even "know" him. The first friend I mentioned is the only one in our friend group who has kept contact with him, and, I believe, that's only because they're both Marines. That's their commonality.

This is the way I see it... The atmosphere in the military is a very common way of thinking. 'Murica first, my brother first/second, and we all think the same and have the same mission. Civilian world couldn't be further from that.

Say what you want, but most military guys are Conservative/ Republican. White collar world is a mix, if not left leaning and now you're faced with more diversity than you're used to. Throw out White, Black, Brown, Yellow... true diversity is in the civilian world with a melting pot of world views.

Like somebody said before... take your training of dealing with your circumstances into practice with those around you. I don't envy you, I'm sure it's easier said than done. However, I think you have a lot that you can "teach" to those around you that have not walked in your shoes. You just can't be blunt and forward like the military allows you to be with your peers.

Thank you for serving.

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Every organization has a hierarchy.

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I've owned 6, my first was a Christmas present from my Grandfather. 440 Belt driven Kawasaki. I later wrecked a 929RR at 80mph and caused some good damage to my shoulders one required 4 hours of surgery. Nice little battle scar to go with it. That got me into Mustangs...no regrets. If I bought another it would be Harley I think, just for the thrill of riding again. After one year long deployment the Freedom riders met us and escorted our bus back to base. That was awesome, returning that favor wouldn't be a bad idea. Oneday...I just may...thanks.

A Harley is a great choice. I made the switch to one after riding sport bikes for years. Nothing like cruising down the backroads on one after a bad day. It will sure change your mood.
 

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What makes you think you will ever fit in ?
What makes you think you're the problem ?
 

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I got out of the Air Force a few years back after 30 years. Aircraft Maintenance. I agree 100% that it’s tough for retired military to work with most (but not all civilians some are great), most have very little discipline and basically zero respect for each other. Will stab each other in the back in search of the mighty dollar or next raise or recognition. I found a Government agency to work for where most people are retired military and we work with military parts suppliers doing quality assurance. There are many of these organizations out there to work for such as: DCMA, FAA, GSA, Dept Homeland Security, DCAA, VA, DoDIG, ICE to name a few. Do a search on www.usajobs.gov for positions that interest you and have a military connection. Oh yes a motorcycle helps at the end of rough week also!
Thanks to all Veterans on this site that have sacrificed for all Americans freedom!
 

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I retired in Dec 1 2013, Army, 13F, FiST for 20 years. To everyone else, Infantry, but can read a map.

2 told to go deployments, and I volunteered for a 3rd after being back 7 months. All my deployments were to Sadar City and the borders of Iraq/Syria....Iraq/Iran. I looked into the faces of armed Iranians daily for 12 months and all the other jackassery stuff.

I miss aspects of the military. I do ok in the civilian world.

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You do realize there are bosses in the Civilian Sector right?
Yeah but they frown on you saying " you need to square away your fat walrus ass away and get this shit done ricky tick **** face!"

Hr doesn't like that lol
 

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First off; you should stop with the military vs civilian bullshit. No one cares. anyone asshole can enlist and follow orders.

Second; You need to find what makes you tick and keeps your interest. If you can’t hack it in the real world without being held by the hand figure it out. 20 years in the military I have to assume you’re late thirties at youngest. You should know at least a little bit about yourself by now.

Third; the political climate? If the political climate in this country is a serious burden on your life you, you’re a loser. Seriously. You’re a loser. No one cares about your feelings, opinions, desires or dreams. That shit is on you. You need to dig deep and figure out how to find happiness. Use the tools you learned in the service. Your discipline, self reliance team building and team work to make a better life and stop blaming other people. Don’t be a product of your environment make your environment a product of you.


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95% of the time there are no orders or hand holding. Just general guidance of what to do given a scenario.

Curious what credentials qualify you to speak so fluidly of the military life to civilian transition, reruns of the History Channel and M*A*S*H?

"anyone asshole can enlist and follow orders"


......STFU!
 
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just curious, how come you didn't try and pursue a career in law enforcement? you seem to want to conform more to that type of structure.
 

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just curious, how come you didn't try and pursue a career in law enforcement? you seem to want to conform more to that type of structure.

It really isn't the structure, it is the professionalism.
 

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