Anybody have any experience with the new gen Nissan Z?

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They are discounting some at my local dealer.

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Nice looking, no personal experience with this one, drove a buds 370 Z manual when they first came out and way back in the day a 240z manual.

The 240z would keep up with my manual GTO to about 50 mph
The 350z couldn’t touch my 87 5.0 stang ( headers, 373’s)
They should have been at 400hp ten years ago.
I would take a 6cyl. 6spd Supra over a Z any day of the week.
Sorry for the rambling response lol


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I had one. Sold it after a few months because it was boring to drive. Got a manual supra instead.
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Nice looking, no personal experience with this one, drove a buds 370 Z manual when they first came out and way back in the day a 240z manual.

The 240z would keep up with my manual GTO to about 50 mph
The 350z couldn’t touch my 87 5.0 stang ( headers, 373’s)
They should have been at 400hp ten years ago.
I would take a 6cyl. 6spd Supra over a Z any day of the week.
Sorry for the rambling response lol


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350Z was ****ing awesome. Sales back that up. Something like 38k units in the first year.

2004 Mustang GT was $25k, 260hp and 1979 suspension with a junk transmission.

2003 350Z was 280hp, 6spd manual that can handle 1,000hp, modern suspension and brakes and cost $28k.

When Ford went 3V Nissan went HR with 305hp.

It all went to shit with the 370Z. The 3.7L engine is dog shit, the styling sucks, the interior is cramped and sales crashed. The Z34 became a dinosaur living on from 2009 until 2020 with no meaningful updates all the while everything else evolved by leaps and bounds. Nissan had no answer for 2015 when the S550, Updated Challenger / Hellcats and Camaros came out.

Nissan should have taken a page from Mazda and told critics and marketing groups to "STFU" and stuck to the recipe that made the 350Z successful.


That recipe?

It was the S15 Silvia / 240SX replacement. A cheap affordable Japanese Pony car. It took the base model Non-Trubo 300ZX and crossed it with a Top-End Turbo Silvia and sprinkled just enough nostalgia cues to be seen as a legitimate successor to both the 300ZX and 240Z.

The Z35 should have gone down in weight and cost, gone with a turbo Four and completed against the GT86 and not the Supra and Mustang.

Unfortunately Nissan is broke and has no other chassis then the ancient FX platform so here we are. A 370Z with some lipstick and a 30T engine... For $70k
 

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Okay, let's transition into talking about the manual Supra which is also on my list. Thoughts? Mods?
It's so BMW you have to pay for Carplay and it uses wheel bolts.

It's dead next year with no replacement.

Engines make power, but boy are they long term trash.

For the price of a new MKV, I'd buy a MKIV.
 

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Okay, let's transition into talking about the manual Supra which is also on my list. Thoughts? Mods?
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I love it. It handles really well and the manual transmission is really good. It's fun and engaging to drive. I personally don't like the stock seats, not enough bolstering...but that's pretty much the only thing I don't like. I've taken it to the road course and it's very capable out of the box. No mods
 

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This car intrigues me that’s for sure but as others have said the high ADM always keeps me from even testing one out. A few local dealers had them priced in the 70-80k range.

Honestly on paper it’s a perfect modern sports car

400hp ( very easy to tune for more HP)

Manual transmission ( optional)

3600lbs ( that is light in today’s market where a dark horse is 4000lbs)

The MSRP is 50k ish ( which is on pair with any car in it’s class)

What is really in this class though?

Supra
M2
BRZ
Mustang
Camaro
Vette

Me personally my 70k would go towards a vette or M2 before a 400z but after that I feel you would hard pressed to pick any of the other options over a 400z at the 50k mark
 

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This car intrigues me that’s for sure but as others have said the high ADM always keeps me from even testing one out. A few local dealers had them priced in the 70-80k range.

Honestly on paper it’s a perfect modern sports car

400hp ( very easy to tune for more HP)

Manual transmission ( optional)

3600lbs ( that is light in today’s market where a dark horse is 4000lbs)

The MSRP is 50k ish ( which is on pair with any car in it’s class)

What is really in this class though?

Supra
M2
BRZ
Mustang
Camaro
Vette

Me personally my 70k would go towards a vette or M2 before a 400z but after that I feel you would hard pressed to pick any of the other options over a 400z at the 50k mark

M2 is the correct answer 100% at 70k. Would love to have one.

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Have you driven the new Z or the MKV Supra?
Already said I've not driven the Z. I don't even have enough interest to go look at one.

The MKV is nice, but it's a BMW. I've not driven the manual, and I acknowledge it's a snappy setup, but those older turbo BMWs are not fairing well.


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350Z was ****ing awesome. Sales back that up. Something like 38k units in the first year.

2004 Mustang GT was $25k, 260hp and 1979 suspension with a junk transmission.

2003 350Z was 280hp, 6spd manual that can handle 1,000hp, modern suspension and brakes and cost $28k.

When Ford went 3V Nissan went HR with 305hp.

It all went to shit with the 370Z. The 3.7L engine is dog shit, the styling sucks, the interior is cramped and sales crashed. The Z34 became a dinosaur living on from 2009 until 2020 with no meaningful updates all the while everything else evolved by leaps and bounds. Nissan had no answer for 2015 when the S550, Updated Challenger / Hellcats and Camaros came out.

Nissan should have taken a page from Mazda and told critics and marketing groups to "STFU" and stuck to the recipe that made the 350Z successful.


That recipe?

It was the S15 Silvia / 240SX replacement. A cheap affordable Japanese Pony car. It took the base model Non-Trubo 300ZX and crossed it with a Top-End Turbo Silvia and sprinkled just enough nostalgia cues to be seen as a legitimate successor to both the 300ZX and 240Z.

The Z35 should have gone down in weight and cost, gone with a turbo Four and completed against the GT86 and not the Supra and Mustang.

Unfortunately Nissan is broke and has no other chassis then the ancient FX platform so here we are. A 370Z with some lipstick and a 30T engine... For $70k

I used to sell Nissan and always thought they had their head up their ass performance-wise. Maxima and Z could have been so much more.
 

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The car intrigues me but I haven't even seen any in the wild. Doesn't seem like they are selling all that well. Does the driving experience feel connected? How does the power feel? Etc...

It's funny you say this because I was thinking the same thing about a month or two ago and wondering why I had only seen a single 400Z more than a year since release, but as of like a month ago I've been seeing multiple almost every day. I assume they were just slow to get to dealers.
 

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Already said I've not driven the Z. I don't even have enough interest to go look at one.

The MKV is nice, but it's a BMW. I've not driven the manual, and I acknowledge it's a snappy setup, but those older turbo BMWs are not fairing well.


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You're thinking of the N54's when you're saying "the older turbo BMWs", the B58 is far and away a better and more solid platform.

Anything built these days is so overcomplicated due to emissions regulations its bound to have issues 15 years down the road, that is the big issue with any mfg.
 

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