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Discussion in 'Road Side Pub' started by RedRocketMike, Sep 16, 2019.
Maybe I’m misunderstanding, but you implied it had classic tags on it in the op?
Not sure if that was in reference to my comment, but being out after midnight doesn't constitute reasonable suspicion, either. In fact, it doesn't constitute shit.
I'm going to have to drive home 2.5 hours from Chicago next Monday night. It will be well past midnight when I'm on the roads. Should I be pulled over if I'm just minding my own business, trying to get home, simply because I had a late arriving flight, and it's late?
He the obvious troll, yet they delete my posts.
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They don't need SHIT to pull you over. This is 2019, not ****ing 1940.
That being said, I have learned this: Be kind, be curteous, do EXACTLY what they say. 99% the clowns that get tickets or jailed are dickheads to the cops. Maybe you were "picked on" but who gives a ****, it is what it is. Make a complaint? Go right ahead, you really think that will make a difference? Sure won't pal.
I imagine if you weren't a target before the complaint, you might be afterwards
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Again, why would the simple fact that someone is out after midnight cause the police to behave ANY different towards them if there are no other extenuating circumstances?
It was partially in th
I was referencing what the OP stated when talking about the lack of PC. An officer can develop reasonable suspicion using many things one of them can be time of day, you would need more then simple its late at night but it could be a factor.
It does. My state has no requirements other than age and condition. I saw a cavalier with a classic tag not too long ago.
Dude, I've been on here for almost 13 years and haven't trolled this board. Sounds like you have a hard-on for me just like the police at night.
I agree with you there, but I figured with everyone on here, maybe someone had.
Your post was only deleted because you quoted someone who bypassed the profanity filter Dom. I was going to edit it, but was on my phone and having some issue doing it.
I have not filed a formal complaint, but I did call the city police 6 years ago when a certain City Sheriff was bullying his way through traffic on a daily basis. This one bastard would tailgate you relentlessly, eventually put on his lights, you'd pull over, he'd pass you and do it to the next guy. It was like 3 or 4 days in a row of this guy pulling that crap on Rt8 around quitting time. He even did it to coworkers, which is where we got the idea to call the station. I had his plate number, explained what he was doing in traffic and the officer on the phone assured me that it wouldn't be happening anymore. Sure enough, never had another problem with the guy. Still saw him in traffic all the time and he was still aggressive, but not to the point of nearly causing accidents or false arrests.
There are 3 outcomes if you call and complain.
1) Nothing happens
2) It gets better
3) It gets worse
If you suspect 1 or 3, get a Chinese traffic cam for like $20 on Amazon.
Again, I said that being out late at night could get you noticed and draw attention. During the day, you would blend in with other traffic much easier. Depending on where you live and or drive, being out after midnight could make YOU the ONLY traffic.
Proactive officers don't sit around waiting on call outs. They are observing people/traffic and looking for indicators that would cause them to make contact.
I am and have been employed at places with shift work. Have I been stopped late at night? Yes. Did I do anything wrong? No. Did I run my mouth at the officers? No. Did I receive any tickets? No. Was it an inconvenience? Yes. Did I file complaints? No. I understand why and what they are doing.
Keep telling yourself that giving up constitutional protections "for the greater good" is the right thing to do.
Not trying to sharpshoot ylu.
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Well the honesty is refreshing...with no denials even..or shame.
We now know that officers will target folks (and misuse their power and authority)...when they decide that they like you.
You do realize the the Police Dept is a REACTIVE force, right?
Yes, you did say that. You have yet to provide a reason why. Crimes that happen while I'm asleep have nothing to do with me. I didn't commit them. The clear implication is that simply because other crimes MIGHT occur at that time of day makes anyone who's out at that time of night suspicious. That's blatantly unconstitutional.
I'm not (or at least, I SHOULDN'T be) a suspect simply for being out after midnight. Period.
And that's a problem because.........? See above.
And why would simply being out after midnight be an indicator that would cause them to make contact? While we're at it, explain to me how the police have the authority to stop people for no legitimate reason, while denying the responsibility to protect the public? Not that I want them to protect me. I'd prefer they stay the **** out of my business. But since that doesn't seem in the cards, an answer would be nice.
Good for you? I haven't had a ticket in over 20 years. That has nothing to do with the discussion at hand, or the questions you can't answer.
thanks for the advice, I learned something today. Before this post, I didn't realize not being a bootlicker was illegal and could lead to a ticket or worse
Just a few points...I believe it was mentioned earlier but PC is no longer the standard for "involuntary police interaction". Reasonable suspicion is. It's a far lower standard and does not necessarily require a violation of the law to be used. Example: A car leaving a shopping center parking lot at night in which all of the businesses are closed...there would be reasonable suspicion for an officer to stop and investigate the vehicle even though the vehicle may not have committed any traffic or criminal offense.
I cannot speculate on OPs interactions. I know the OP is saying he is detailing everything and not leaving everything out...and I'm not saying that he is not, but I've done this long enough to know there is always 3 sides to every story. OPs side, the other side and finally the truth which usually is somewhere in the middle.
I think people watch too much TV. If you feel you have been wronged, file a complaint. It's not going to get you "marked". Cops get complaints filed against them all the time. Generally, an administrator type or IA officer will handle complaints against officers unless you live in some backwoods community where the department is run by Jim Bob and his brother Ricky Lee. There is usually a massive disconnect between the admin officers and the patrol/street cops. These guys make their careers on dinging cops....that's what they are tasked with. So if there is a policy violation or a criminal violation, trust me...they will get a hard on to get the guy/girl. It's not 1960 anymore.
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How do you classify patrolling? Serving warrants?