I have not, but very little effort with the dyad.
Gotcha. I'll have to get use to it. I'm going to adjust my tob the way you set yours up.
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I don't believe that to be correct.
Most manual transmission vehicles pre 1980's don't have the throw out bearing touching the pressure plate unless you apply pressure to the pedal. A running throw out bearing was going to go out in no time, so they were setup not to touch the pressure plate. When I installed my T5 behind my 351C was the first time I dealt with a throw out bearing that was made to run all the time. What i read on the internet is that when Ford went to cable clutch linkages they required a throw out bearing that was made to run all the time, so the throw out bearing they use is different than one from say the 60's. If you speak to any old timer thats worked on a car he'll tell you the throw out bearing should never touch the pressure plate until the pedal is applied, this is based off the old throw out bearings.
Unfortunately I don't know if theres any spec on how much pressure should be applied to the the pressure plate by the throw out bearing when not in use, it wouldn't be in the shop manual as the Ford system is self adjusting. What I did on my street rod which doesn't have the self adjusting Ford linkage, is I adjusted it based off where the clutch released. If I can push the clutch pedal a considerable distance while the car is moving before I lose power, I know the clutch isn't riding right on the edge of slipping when the pedal isn't pressed.
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Interesting for sure. I just don't want to prematurely wear out my new clutch. I push my pedal all the way to the floor to make sure it's disengaged. When I release the pedal it's maybe 1/2"-1" from the floor when the rpms drop and the car wants to move forward.
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Don't forget you're coming from a worn out clutch to a new one as well. That'll make a bit of a difference in engagement. I would drive it a bit and see if you can adjust to the new release point first. If you can and everything else is adjusted correctly I'd leave it.
FWIW, I've had the TOB touching in all of my clutches. I haven't had one go out randomly yet. Knock on wood.
FWIW, I've had the TOB touching in all of my clutches. I haven't had one go out randomly yet. Knock on wood.
I think that's sound advice. Only thing I'll do is maybe go 1-2 clicks on the firewall adjuster so the tob is constantly spinning. Obviously not super fast.
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This is such a debated subject. But if you look at even the Ford design with the clicking adjustable quadrant it would keep constant light pressure of the TOB onto the pressure plate.
Very hard to see, I tried making a video showing how much tob is spinning. Just enough to have it constantly turning while in neutral.
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Had a break in the weather, still quite cold, like 40 degrees and windy. Drove around my neighborhood, logged about 6 miles.
Clutch feels pretty good, need a little more seat time getting use to leaving in 1st gear. It would be much easier if I raised the rpms a lot more when taking off. But not sure if that's a good idea on a new clutch.
All gears went in quite smoothly, 1st gear got a little tough on the last stop sign. Reverse has always been a little hard. May tighten up the cable one more click on the firewall adjuster.
I can basically let the clutch all the way out in reverse and the car starts moving. A lot of miles to go, but already this clutch is night and day different than the promotion I previously had.
No abnormal sounds and the car made it back home, so that's a win in my book!
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Clutch feels pretty good, need a little more seat time getting use to leaving in 1st gear. It would be much easier if I raised the rpms a lot more when taking off. But not sure if that's a good idea on a new clutch.
All gears went in quite smoothly, 1st gear got a little tough on the last stop sign. Reverse has always been a little hard. May tighten up the cable one more click on the firewall adjuster.
I can basically let the clutch all the way out in reverse and the car starts moving. A lot of miles to go, but already this clutch is night and day different than the promotion I previously had.
No abnormal sounds and the car made it back home, so that's a win in my book!
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It shouldn't hurt anything to give it a little more RPM on the take off. That was one of the things I had to learn when I got my car. I had to finish breaking in the RXT and since it's more grabby than a stock clutch I had to learn to give it more RPM so it wouldn't chatter.
Cool, 1200-1500 rpms would make a difference. I get very very little chatter. And it's not all the time.
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If you break it in correctly you should end up with no chatter and something you can drive like stock.
Im glad it didn't scared you as mine was unbelievably harsh the first few drives I was sure something was screwed up.
Im glad it didn't scared you as mine was unbelievably harsh the first few drives I was sure something was screwed up.
Awesome. I'll definitely be doing 450-500 city miles. My previous clutch was pretty harsh, so I knew a little chatter is normal.
Everything else is nice and quiet. I appreciate the help and motivation everyone has given me.
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I want to say thats about where I take off. They say 1000 miles for break in for the RXT. I think it was a little more than that and it smoothed out. Plus learning to drive with a grabby clutch.
Gotcha. Centerforce says 450-500 miles. I only put a total of 700ish so far this year. And that's a lot of highway. Not a lot nicer days left, winter is coming.
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Yes Bdubbs bummer for us northerners. But always enjoy it again in the spring.
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I would recommend breaking the clutch before putting it in storage. Also, I have had my TOB spinning all the time and never had an issue with since 2007.
Likely won't happen. 500 city miles would take me quite awhile. And here in Minnesota we could have snow in October. The lows have already been sub 30 degrees.
Great to hear with the tob, that's quite some time.
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Took car out today. Had some noise when clutch pedal was fully depressed. Backed tob off pp fingers so it just stopped spinning, now it's quiet.
I've done some research saying moving the tob closer to the pp fingers would generally stop the noise.
Kind of confused. I'll be taking it out again tonight. Only have about 50 miles on it.
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I've done some research saying moving the tob closer to the pp fingers would generally stop the noise.
Kind of confused. I'll be taking it out again tonight. Only have about 50 miles on it.
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Huh. That's weird. Maybe have someone depress the clutch while you're under the car and watch.
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Indeed. Now it seems fine again.
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