Censorship of Free Speech in America

[Kevins89notch]

you are wrong. there are literally names of people you cannot say on some of these sites without having your feed cut and video demonetized. users and channels have been getting nuked at an increasing rate while others are left to plan events which result in cities catching fire, literally.

Their platform, their rules. I've heard some YT history based channels getting red flagged for mentioning Hitler. I know some current vloggers who say "the current situation" as to not say covid as I guess that gets advertisers to drop your video.

again, you are wrong. this would be like you getting fired for saying something other people at your office say on the regular and them turning around to remark upon how they don't really feel like anyone was silenced because you could go find another place to work.

Sounds like something that happens in every workplace. Tons of people can make improper jokes and it just takes one new coworker to go to HR and someone could get hired.

 

[VenomousDSG]

If you censor or support the censoring of people in this country, you are an enemy of this country, and the constitution it was founded on... Don't care who you are.

 

[Regulars520]

And? FB probably has minimum wage workers who view report, or maybe even just bots. I admin some FB groups. I report TONS of fake accounts. I can report accounts where the URL of the account is something middle eastern like Mohammad Akzerts (I'm just making something up as an example). The name shown will be Sally Anders, and have direct porn links with "click here to see me cum" as the caption. The pics of "Sally" even say, "Sally changed HIS profile picture." I report these accounts as fake accounts and maybe half get removed. The others get the same message you got.

I found some 50 year dude who was friends with like 600 of these fake models. Come to notice, he has like 9 accounts all friends with each other, all with friends of fake porn models. All 9 of the profiles are a face pic of him. All have names about the same like Richard Lessons, Rick Lessons, R Lessons, Rick Lesson, Ricky Lessons, Rich L, Richy Less, etc. I reported them all. Zero were removed.

I’m not here to argue. If you feel that it’s ok to censor speech on any platform then that is your idea of freedom. It’s not my idea of freedom. We will have to agree to disagree instead of countering back and forth.

 

[Kevins89notch]

I’m not here to argue. If you feel that it’s ok to censor speech on any platform then that is your idea of freedom. It’s not my idea of freedom. We will have to agree to disagree instead of countering back and forth.

Sorry, but it's not censorship of free speech. When your actions have the ability to affect a company's profits, they have the right to not service you. Try to find a tshirt company to make shirts with large swastikas on it and hateful text. I would bet all the big easily googleable t shirt brands would deny your order. Why? They don't want to be known as the company making nazi shirts, because that could affect their other sales from other companies. Similar was on YT with their "ad apocalypse" in which a lot of YTers loss a lot of income. I believe the cause was advertisers were given more control over which videos their ads were shown on, and they were allowed to not be shown on video containing certain key words.

 

[Regulars520]

Sorry, but it's not censorship of free speech. When your actions have the ability to affect a company's profits, they have the right to not service you. Try to find a tshirt company to make shirts with large swastikas on it and hateful text. I would bet all the big easily googleable t shirt brands would deny your order. Why? They don't want to be known as the company making nazi shirts, because that could affect their other sales from other companies. Similar was on YT with their "ad apocalypse" in which a lot of YTers loss a lot of income. I believe the cause was advertisers were given more control over which videos their ads were shown on, and they were allowed to not be shown on video containing certain key words.

Not really sure which part of not here to argue and agree to disagree you didn’t get.
Your idea of freedom greatly differs from mine. Your definition of censorship, freedom of speech and the constitution greatly differs from mine. No matter how much you post about it you will not change my mind on what I have said.

 

[Kevins89notch]

Your idea of freedom greatly differs from mine. Your definition of censorship, freedom of speech and the constitution greatly differs from mine.

and you never had what you thought you did. You dream world doesn't exist. It wasn't yesterday that a blatantly racist shirt was offensive and would get you kicked out of a store. That still happened 20 years ago.

 

[Regulars520]

and you never had what you thought you did. You dream world doesn't exist. It wasn't yesterday that a blatantly racist shirt was offensive and would get you kicked out of a store. That still happened 20 years ago.

Not sure why you continue to preach at me. FYI you lost me when you started talking about target not letting you shop with a certain T-shirt on when I/we are talking about a platform silencing people in order to influence a presidential election. Me and you are not even on the same page here. I’m not talking about shopping and tshirts...

 

[Kevins89notch]

Not sure why you continue to preach at me. FYI you lost me when you started talking about target not letting you shop with a certain T-shirt on when I/we are talking about a platform silencing people in order to influence a presidential election. Me and you are not even on the same page here. I’m not talking about shopping and tshirts...

and no one is banned from social media for saying they are a republican, for saying they support trump or for saying they hate Biden. Zero. NONE!

 

[Regulars520]

and no one is banned from social media for saying they are a republican, for saying they support trump or for saying they hate Biden. Zero. NONE!

This is the exact reason why I haven’t posted on here for years. Foot stompers. People who just insist they are right and have all the answers and will just ignore anything you say until their words come out of your mouth.

if you feel you are right then great, congratulations. Like I said you lost me way back when. I guess if you need to keep trying and post another 30 posts to try and get me to agree and for your words to come from me, have at it. Here’s what I would suggest however

 

[Kevins89notch]

This is the exact reason why I haven’t posted on here for years. Foot stompers. People who just insist they are right and have all the answers and will just ignore anything you say until their words come out of your mouth.

Funny, my FB feed is 95% Trump supporters, always posting biden memes, always talking about the fake news media and such... and none of them are banned. So odd.

 

[Regulars520]

Funny, my FB feed is 95% Trump supporters, always posting biden memes, always talking about the fake news media and such... and none of them are banned. So odd.

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[crazy4life]

If you censor or support the censoring of people in this country, you are an enemy of this country, and the constitution it was founded on... Don't care who you are.

You do realize that 100's of people have been banned or semi banned or temporally banned on this very site. A moderator took offense to what they said and poof the ban hammer was applied. Why did this happen you ask. This site is privately owned and if you don't abide by the rules then they can ban you. Simple concept right. Make a thread on here about how we should all hang Sid by his nutsack and burn his house down and see how long it lasts. There are no 1st amendment rights on this platform because you agreed to the rules when you signed up. Don't understand why that concept is so hard for some people to understand.

 

[Weather Man]

You do realize that 100's of people have been banned or semi banned or temporally banned on this very site. A moderator took offense to what they said and poof the ban hammer was applied. Why did this happen you ask. This site is privately owned and if you don't abide by the rules then they can ban you. Simple concept right. Make a thread on here about how we should all hang Sid by his nutsack and burn his house down and see how long it lasts. There are no 1st amendment rights on this platform because you agreed to the rules when you signed up. Don't understand why that concept is so hard for some people to understand.

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[Mojo88]

Its been a few years since I have joined a conversation here. I will try to be as non-controversial as i can with this.

This is not the America I grew up with and loved. I love my country very much, however our country has become big government and big money. Thats all that runs our country. I'm retired so I can pretty much speak what I want without the risk of losing my employment. Saying that alone hurts, our country was founded on having freedoms that did not come with repercussions. Such as free speech. Now people are forced to conform or risk losing everything because their ideas and opinions do not align with others. To have to worry that your business title will lead in your personal life. To be-enslaved is truly what that is. We should not live in fear for sharing our views. It should not automatically be assumed because we voted for a person that we support all of their views and all of the words that leave their mouth. America has decided to quite using critical thinking and has resorted to knee-jerking. I voted for someone because I agreed with some of their platforms ideas and I disagreed with the other parties. In a truly free nation I should be able to do that without worry. Without living in fear that my work will find out I am a republican or a Democrat and take action against me.
I will say this softly so I do not offend others, Americans have become weak. We have allowed and enabled our government to grow to the point that the control us. We have allowed tech companies to use business and business law to help restrict our 1st Amendment rights. No American should be silenced, ever. We have allowed this, all of us. The pot is warming up to a boil as we sit in it. Lets not let it boil. Lets not let big business and politics take away our freedoms. Lets not be afraid to voice our thoughts and ideas and concerns. Many people before us have given everything without fear or remorse in order to speak the truth, in order to combat a wrong in order to make a right for everyone. That is the American way> Our people need courage, integrity and unity. Hope I didnt ruffle any feathers.

I concur 100% ^^^^^^^^^^^^ I was wracking my feeble brain, trying to come up with something similar to this.

 

[Adower]

Sorry, but it's not censorship of free speech. When your actions have the ability to affect a company's profits, they have the right to not service you. Try to find a tshirt company to make shirts with large swastikas on it and hateful text. I would bet all the big easily googleable t shirt brands would deny your order. Why? They don't want to be known as the company making nazi shirts, because that could affect their other sales from other companies. Similar was on YT with their "ad apocalypse" in which a lot of YTers loss a lot of income. I believe the cause was advertisers were given more control over which videos their ads were shown on, and they were allowed to not be shown on video containing certain key words.

IF YouTube/twitter/etc chooses to censor then fine. However, they need to censor everyone and not pick and choose. Lots of calls from Democrats of violence but no banning Of them. This is definitely censorship of free speech.

 

[Makobra]

Their platform, their rules.

again, you are wrong here. the rules are biased, applied with bias, and interpreted with bias.
section 230 protections require good faith actors. they do not apply them unilaterally to everyone.

Sounds like something that happens in every workplace. Tons of people can make improper jokes and it just takes one new coworker to go to HR and someone could get hired.

wrong again. in your story HR has issues with anyone making that joke and they each receive equal punishment.

the reality is this would be more like saying "white people can say this but black people can't", "asians can say this but white people can't" etc.

this is classism and if you don't see the problem you're part of it.

this is actual blatant literal persecution.

 

[BlksvtCobra01]

Not sure why you continue to preach at me. FYI you lost me when you started talking about target not letting you shop with a certain T-shirt on when I/we are talking about a platform silencing people in order to influence a presidential election. Me and you are not even on the same page here. I’m not talking about shopping and tshirts...

You’re wasting you’re time he is a man bun wearing awesome dude who lives at home with his parents and votes democrat.


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[scott9050]

Its pretty simple. Liberals own all the media outlets in this country as well as the biggest companies so of course they can censor free speech. Who is gonna stop them? No one apparently.

The Great Reset.....One World Government.
Great Reset is corporate communism, and it’s coming to America

Just this morning Conservative talk show hosts like Mark Levin were warned not to talk about the election being stolen or they will be fired by Cumulus. This is just the beginning. I can guarantee you that ammo and guns will be scrubbed from the internet by mid year as dangerous as will any site that allows dissenting voices to be heard. This is just the beginning and those that thought this could not happen in America.....you were wrong.

 

[scott9050]

I don't feel "one party" is being silenced. Does Fox News exist? OAN? Maybe the hundreds of lesser known heavily right leaning sites?

The push is on to ban both:

Analysis: TV providers should not escape scrutiny for distributing disinformation - CNN

 

[jvandy50]

i'm surprised Gundy didn't lose his job for wearing the OAN shirt that was made into such a big deal. what a crock of shit. how blind and hypocritical do you have to be to think this is alright??