Dealer Cost v Invoice on Hellcat

fangstang

Well-Known Member
Established Member
Joined
Aug 27, 2001
Messages
3,529
Location
N.Y.
I would get a plum crazy, manual Hellcat with brass colored wheels and sepia interior.
image-jpg.28291
 

Screw-Rice

I like BBC
Established Member
Joined
Jun 12, 2005
Messages
7,947
Location
Denver, Co (Hell)
The 6.2 is stout.
The IHI superchargers are having issues with the bearings in the supercharger.
I hear that there a fix in the works. Hellcat owners are having superchargers replaced. Some are for a second time.
Wouldn't be too worried about it, the CTS-V's have a similar known issue. Mine isn't making any noise, but I'm hoping it does so I can get a replacement, lol.

Now I was reading about a other issues that kind of has me on the fence. Leaking lines, dead cylinders, etc.
 

Kewlv8

Active Member
Established Member
Joined
Dec 26, 2009
Messages
1,022
Location
Austin, Tx
It's a 650RWHP car with a full warranty, Geez. Who cares about a few issues where the defects are measure in the PPM. Grow a pair and just do it....:cool:
 

tones_RS3

I like members members.
Established Member
Premium Member
Joined
Jan 29, 2016
Messages
18,476
Location
MA
Wouldn't be too worried about it, the CTS-V's have a similar known issue. Mine isn't making any noise, but I'm hoping it does so I can get a replacement, lol.
Now I was reading about a other issues that kind of has me on the fence. Leaking lines, dead cylinders, etc.
I didn't hear anything about those issue mentioned. Just the supercharger issue.
What have you heard/read?

It's a 650RWHP car with a full warranty, Geez. Who cares about a few issues where the defects are measure in the PPM. Grow a pair and just do it....:cool:
Since you put it that way,.........you make it sound like you're buying it for me.
Are you? lol :D
 

Screw-Rice

I like BBC
Established Member
Joined
Jun 12, 2005
Messages
7,947
Location
Denver, Co (Hell)
It's a 650RWHP car with a full warranty, Geez. Who cares about a few issues where the defects are measure in the PPM. Grow a pair and just do it....:cool:
issues for me is the Charger didn't get a manual option (small issue) and not sure I want a payment.

I didn't hear anything about those issue mentioned. Just the supercharger issue.
What have you heard/read?
Noticed it's from early 15' so some of the issues might have been fixed. The one guy who was told to pound sand on the tons of paint issues on his car, pissed me off.

http://www.hellcat.org/threads/hellcat-known-issues.2502/
 

tones_RS3

I like members members.
Established Member
Premium Member
Joined
Jan 29, 2016
Messages
18,476
Location
MA

Sirhc7897

Well-Known Member
Established Member
Joined
Jun 27, 2003
Messages
1,063
Location
Macclenny, FL
IMO the supercharger issue is greatly overblown. I think a lot of these guys have never had a FI car before and a very small handful of cars with a legitimate issue have created "panic in the streets".

Mine makes a little noise but so did the Gen 2 TVS on my Shelby.

I've seen a couple go mango's with no stripes and I personally think if you're going to go that color you need the stripes to break it up. I'd also opt for the black wheels over the BM on that color.

I prefer the 16 wheels over the 17's but they're a PITA to clean.

7f2a38d3e71a058e0d8c890d18edda39.jpg


I readily admit to being color bias though.


Sent from my iPhone using the svtperformance.com mobile app
 

Screw-Rice

I like BBC
Established Member
Joined
Jun 12, 2005
Messages
7,947
Location
Denver, Co (Hell)
I think all those issues have been addressed. I haven't seen or heard of any more of those issues.
The one that makes me nervous and bothers me is the supercharger issue.
I haven't dug too deep into it, when I do start to research a lot it has a habit of becoming a purchase.

The supercharger is the least of my concerns, but I think having a supercharged car with a similar issue is why I don't see it as a big problem, lol.
 

snakedoctor

Well-Known Member
Established Member
Joined
Nov 9, 2004
Messages
2,172
Location
Where my shadow falls
IMO the supercharger issue is greatly overblown. I think a lot of these guys have never had a FI car before and a very small handful of cars with a legitimate issue have created "panic in the streets".

Mine makes a little noise but so did the Gen 2 TVS on my Shelby.

I've seen a couple go mango's with no stripes and I personally think if you're going to go that color you need the stripes to break it up. I'd also opt for the black wheels over the BM on that color.

I prefer the 16 wheels over the 17's but they're a PITA to clean.

7f2a38d3e71a058e0d8c890d18edda39.jpg


I readily admit to being color bias though.


Sent from my iPhone using the svtperformance.com mobile app

I want the go mango with the blacked out hood.
 

Troponin

Well-Known Member
Established Member
Joined
May 6, 2014
Messages
1,739
Location
College Station, Texas
Put the transmission in track mode and forget about a MT. The A8 in track mode is a beast.

The supply of 16 HC Challengers is insane. Even the small dealerships have several on their lot, which is why you can shop around and get good deals. The Charger is a little more tricky because there are far less to choose from. I got 4000 off MSRP on mine, but I could have gotten 8 to 10,000 off a challenger. I needed a four-door with more room though.
 

Troponin

Well-Known Member
Established Member
Joined
May 6, 2014
Messages
1,739
Location
College Station, Texas
Oh, and the supercharger issues are overblown. The forums just happen to get a collection of people complaining about it, but when you figure how many people are members and how many people are complaining, it's still only a fraction
 

Booky

Who's Pick'n The Banjo Here?
Established Member
Joined
Feb 3, 2010
Messages
3,468
Location
US
What issue? I thought the IHI blower was stout, or is it just the 6.2L that's stout?

There are owners panicking about the noise the supercharger is making. I have not read of any OEM superchargers failing from this extra noise.

Mine started getting somewhat noisy so I have been taking a video about every 2-4 weeks to document if it gets worse. Some say it sounds similar to a bad power steering pump.

This is one of the video's I took showing the noise the supercharger is making. So far it has not got worse and I still have 4 years on the warranty, so I am not too worried.

 

nxhappy

Well-Known Member
Established Member
Joined
Dec 16, 2006
Messages
10,005
Location
AZ
There are owners panicking about the noise the supercharger is making. I have not read of any OEM superchargers failing from this extra noise.

Mine started getting somewhat noisy so I have been taking a video about every 2-4 weeks to document if it gets worse. Some say it sounds similar to a bad power steering pump.

This is one of the video's I took showing the noise the supercharger is making. So far it has not got worse and I still have 4 years on the warranty, so I am not too worried.

everything sounds fine to me ? lol
 

El_Joker

Member
Established Member
Joined
Jun 1, 2014
Messages
72
Location
Texas
This is one of the video's I took showing the noise the supercharger is making. So far it has not got worse and I still have 4 years on the warranty, so I am not too worried.

Mine was a little louder than yours when I had my dealer check. They ended up replacing it. Mine had been showing about 2# less boost.
 

Sirhc7897

Well-Known Member
Established Member
Joined
Jun 27, 2003
Messages
1,063
Location
Macclenny, FL
Mine was a little louder than yours when I had my dealer check. They ended up replacing it. Mine had been showing about 2# less boost.


When mine starts showing a boost loss I'll worry. I'm still pegging 11+ on the interceptor gauge so not the least bit worried about sounds unless the thing starts sounding like a bunch or marbles getting rolled around in a coffee can.


Sent from my iPhone using the svtperformance.com mobile app
 

Never_Enough

Well-Known Member
Established Member
Joined
Feb 19, 2010
Messages
9,909
Location
PA
New for $55k? Then used must be in the $40s now. Only a matter of time before they dip even more.
 

tones_RS3

I like members members.
Established Member
Premium Member
Joined
Jan 29, 2016
Messages
18,476
Location
MA
Mine was a little louder than yours when I had my dealer check. They ended up replacing it. Mine had been showing about 2# less boost.
I would consider that a problem, wouldn't you? You're down 2lbs. in boost with a new supercharger. That doesn't bother you? I'm not being sarcastic, just curious.

****As for the others that say it isn't a problem,...tell the guys on the Hellcat forum that. Some of them are getting a third supercharger. Obviously it's an issue if SRT is saying to replace the supercharger, no?? I don't think that SRT would be just throwing superchargers on the cars for no reason. At least, I'd like to think not.
Don't forget, not all Hellcat owners are on the forums or know about the supercharger issues. So who knows how many are out there doing damage to their supercharger day to day.

***IHI is working on a fix. Hopefully it's a quick one. I'd like to order a Hellcat Challenger. (Yes I said "order", unless I find EXACTLY what I am looking for.) GoMango Orange, black carbon fiber stripes, A8, black leather/suede seating, upgraded stereo system and brass monkey wheels.
NASSTTYY!!!!! \m/
 

Users who are viewing this thread



Top