Electrical question

[Speedylifsavr]

My Mig welder which runs of 110V took a crap . I borrowed my buddies HOBART mig welder which runs off 220V .

Can I plug this into my dryer outlet?

These are the specs per the manual :

60Hz single Phase

Input Voltage : 200
input Ampres : 29

Max standard fuse rating in Ampres : 35

These are the breakers for the dryer , looks like 2 20 amp...will this be ok?

 

[svtcop]

Just because they are both 220v doesn't mean the plug will fit. Might want to check that first. If it does...worst you're gonna do is pop a breaker/fuse if you draw too much current.

 

[Speedylifsavr]

Just because they are both 220v doesn't mean the plug will fit. Might want to check that first. If it does...worst you're gonna do is pop a breaker/fuse if you draw too much current.

Right you are...the plug is different . But nothing a trip to home depot wont fix .

 

[BRNG ITT]

Should be good to go. Seen this done numerous times. Just make sure you wire it up correctly with the new plug.

 

[svtcop]

Should be good to go. Seen this done numerous times. Just make sure you wire it up correctly with the new plug.

Good advice there! lol

 

[FL-Orange]

Uh... 2 20 amp breakers on a 220/240 circuit only gives you 20 amps of protection.

 

[focussvtracer]

Uh... 2 20 amp breakers on a 220/240 circuit only gives you 20 amps of protection.

shhhhhhhh i want to hear when he comes back because his breaker keeps tripping and he cant figure out why

 

[FL-Orange]

shhhhhhhh i want to hear when he comes back because his breaker keeps tripping and he cant figure out why

I'm also wondering why his dryer is only on a 20 amp circuit.....

OP, if you have room in your panel it's not hard to do it right. 35 amp 240 breaker, #8 (I think) wire and the proper plug. NEMA Configurations

 

[Speedylifsavr]

I'm also wondering why his dryer is only on a 20 amp circuit.....

OP, if you have room in your panel it's not hard to do it right. 35 amp 240 breaker, #8 (I think) wire and the proper plug. NEMA Configurations

Thanks!! :beer:

 

[BLWN DSG]

Ok wait a minute....are the 2-20's in thei middle tied together and the 2-30's on the outside tied together??? I see where it says Water Heater and then Dryer. I am more confused about why the hell the breakers were wired that way....oh well.

I personally would do what FL-ORANGE said. A #8 AWG will handle the 35A breaker. When working with electrical DO NOT SHORT CUT ANYTHING...the end results will not be pretty. I have been doing electrical engineering for 8 years now and have seen some nasty stuff happen from when people tried taking the easy way out.

 

[FL-Orange]

Ok wait a minute....are the 2-20's in thei middle tied together and the 2-30's on the outside tied together??? I see where it says Water Heater and then Dryer. I am more confused about why the hell the breakers were wired that way....oh well.

I personally would do what FL-ORANGE said. A #8 AWG will handle the 35A breaker. When working with electrical DO NOT SHORT CUT ANYTHING...the end results will not be pretty. I have been doing electrical engineering for 8 years now and have seen some nasty stuff happen from when people tried taking the easy way out.

Yeah I thought that was odd too but just took it at face value.

 

[BLWN DSG]

Yeah I thought that was odd too but just took it at face value.

yeah it works but definetly not the smartest way to do it. I would not have that in my house!

 

[Mr. Mach-ete]

Not sure why your dryer is on a 20 amp service? Most dryers require a 30 amp service, I'm surprised your dryer hasn't tripped the 20 amp breaker already. My advise is you better get a trained st of eyes on your situation, you don't want to risk setting fire to your house.

 

[ff500]

Panel could be labeled wrong, dryer should have a 30amp circuit, electric hot water is usually a 30amp circuit as well. Turn the dryer on and shut off the 30amp breakers and see if it shuts down. If the strap that is across the 30's prevents you from shutting it off or the breaker from tripping on overload that could be dangerous, especially if you use a welder that could draw more than 30 amps. I'd check that out before I did anything else, make sure you can freely shut those breakers off, because it looks like some kind of a breaker lock to me.

 

[Speedylifsavr]

ok....30 amps are for the dryer 20 are for the Water heater . I remember now when the plumber came to replace our water heater he said he had to use less powerful elements for that reason .

Now...do you thing the 30amps will be ok? Since the welder requires 29 input amps?

This is what I have to plug in the welder to the outlet in my garage .

 

[FL-Orange]

You need a 35amp 2 pole breaker. Any less you may throw the nreaker. If the breaker doesn't trip you may melt the wires...or start a fire.

 

[oilwell1415]

Just to clarify, does the welder need 29A just to run, or does it require 29A to run at peak power?

 

[Speedylifsavr]

29A at peak power . I'm welding 1/8" weld steel to reinforce the frame of the golf cart I'm building . I've been welding all morning on a lower setting (which is all thats required) with no issues .

Thanks to all who responded!!

 

[ff500]

29A at peak power . I'm welding 1/8" weld steel to reinforce the frame of the golf cart I'm building . I've been welding all morning on a lower setting (which is all thats required) with no issues .

Thanks to all who responded!!

Did you check to see if you can shut that breaker off ?? It looks like that breaker handle strap can prevent the breaker from tripping or shutting off.

 

[VirtualSVT]

Uh I am speechless about your panel...lol