I'm getting onto the highway, slowly moving up the gears drifting to the middle lane when I notice some dense traffic coming up. The far right lane is clear so I go from 3rd to 4th to cruise by the upcoming traffic. I'm doing about 70, I can't explain what happened but I went from 3rd to 2nd. I can make excuses all day long but honestly the shift from 3rd to 2nd was a smooth transition and it felt like 4th. I’ve never so much as stalled any cobra I’ve owned let alone miss a gear like this. I got 50% off the clutch for a matter of 2 seconds not even. When I was half way off the clutch my rear tires chirped, my shift light went off and I saw tac peg, I knew I was in second. Ok so now I'm back on the clutch, go for 5th and cruise to a rest stop. Pop the hood, everything seems fine. I shut the car off for 10 min just to reflect on the retarded situation. I started it back up and listened for knocking, whistling, anything out of the ordinary, seemed ok. Then I pushed the throttle in for a few WOT revs, sounded perfectly fine. Cruised home 100% a/f perfect. But wow what a retarded thing to do! I’d suspect I was in the region of 8000-9000 RPM for maybe 1 second. I guess this isn't nearly as bad as running the car WOT to those RPMs but bad nonetheless. Any engine builders out there have anything to add, maybe things I should look for over the next few days? I'm planning on doing a comp test tomorrow.
Ever go from 3rd to 2nd at 70?
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I did this plenty of times with my mgw shifter when it wasnt adjusted right. Plus, these shifters are in such a PITA location, that my body has to be really shifted towards the console area for me to execute some quick shifts. I did what you did probably twice in my car, I was as quick as you were when it came to getting those rpm's off the rev limiter as soon as possible, just tried to push the clutch in asap. Everythings fine, she's runnin better than ever, im sure your fine 
I don't understand. My car does nearly 80 in second gear so 70 would be no where near redline. Are you sure you were only doing 70? Or do you have a steeper rear gear?
Hurst sent me one of their Vertical Gate shifters to try out in my Stock Eliminator car several years ago. After a few races, I was pretty pleased with it...other than I had to take the trans out of the car to properly set it up. One day, my partner and I rented the track for some testing we were doing on some new combinations. I launched the car hard and went through 1st and 2nd gears. When I hammered it into 3rd (this was a pro-shifted Liberty Super T-10...you probably don't even need a clutch to shift it) for some reason, it went back into first gear. That did some REAL ugly damage to the engine. I had to replace all the valves and rods...timing chain broke...all kinds of things. That was the last run I ever made with that shifter....
postban said:
1st goes to 57 mph?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
I did something similar the other day. I was in 5th at around 40-45 and had to get over, well there was a car that had been pacing with me and so I went to downshift to third for a little more umph if I needed it. Well I don't know how I did it but somehow I put it into first and barked the hell out of the tires and saw the rpms shoot up!!! I immediately threw it in neutral, and pulled over. I left the car on and hopped out to listen to it idle and reved it slightly a few times to see if anything was knocking. I felt like a complete newb!!!! I'm sure the guy in the car next to me was thinking I was some stupid kid who doesn't know how to drive his car!!!! :shrug:
this has happened to me twice. once i was at 6000 rpms in 3rd going for 4th and put it in second, that scared the piss out of me. i was sure my motor was done but all was fine. the second time i was just merging onto the highway and went to shift into 4th quick at about 4000 rpms and went into second. this one wasnt as bad. the first time it scared the crap out of me, the tires chirped and i stepped back on the clutch as fast as i could. both time were with the mgw shifter. i'm happy i had a rev limiter.
Frank
Frank
SnakeBit said:
I think it was 70... Might have been a little faster... These cars tend to get away from you at times, but I honestly didn't know 2nd was good to 70-80. So I that's good to know... I couldn't have been going much faster than that.
postban said:
I can verify the max 134 in 4th.
I've only hit my rev limiter once. I was on a nice straight stretch wathcing the spedometer approach 140 in 4th when all of the sudden the car just bogged, I thought oh no, I just killed it. Then I realized I just hit the limiter. I just didn't realize 134-135 was the max in 4th. You live and learn.
By the way, I don't make a habit of this, just trying to see if the vib I was having was still there (70-80) after my dirve shaft was replaced. It's still there. the dealer is still scratching their heads. I'll probably start pushing them to work on it again after mustang week at Myrtle Beach is over.
I was cruising around 80 on the interstate in 6th gear one time and dropped the car into 2nd thinking I was going into 4th. The tach spun to redline before I was able to push the clutch back in. I only had my car 2 days and it scared the shit out of me. It sounded really bad but there was no damage done.
I bet a lot of people have done similar things getting used to a new car.
I bet a lot of people have done similar things getting used to a new car.
I had this happen twice on hard runs right after I put the MGW in. It hasn't happened since. No apparent damage to be found. Tough assed cars.
postban said:
This must be at factory redline. It damned sure ain't @ 7K.
I downshifted from 6th to 5th today --- I was trying to go to 3rd......... talk about bog. :loser:
I know it probably sounded terrible, but you'll be fine. 70 mph in 2nd gear (with stock tires and gears) is only about 5800 rpm. I've done the same thing and it scares the crap out of you, for sure! Below is a table or MPH vs RPM
Code:
Engine MPH
RPM 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th
1000 8.08 12.08 16.54 21.50 26.88 34.13
1100 8.89 13.29 18.20 23.66 29.57 37.55
1200 9.70 14.50 19.85 25.81 32.26 40.96
1300 10.51 15.71 21.50 27.96 34.95 44.38
1400 11.32 16.91 23.16 30.11 37.63 47.79
1500 12.13 18.12 24.81 32.26 40.32 51.20
1600 12.94 19.33 26.47 34.41 43.01 54.62
1700 13.74 20.54 28.12 36.56 45.70 58.03
1800 14.55 21.75 29.78 38.71 48.39 61.44
1900 15.36 22.95 31.43 40.86 51.07 64.86
2000 16.17 24.16 33.08 43.01 53.76 68.27
2100 16.98 25.37 34.74 45.16 56.45 71.68
2200 17.79 26.58 36.39 47.31 59.14 75.10
2300 18.59 27.79 38.05 49.46 61.83 78.51
2400 19.40 29.00 39.70 51.61 64.51 81.92
2500 20.21 30.20 41.36 53.76 67.20 85.34
2600 21.02 31.41 43.01 55.91 69.89 88.75
2700 21.83 32.62 44.66 58.06 72.58 92.16
2800 22.64 33.83 46.32 60.21 75.27 95.58
2900 23.45 35.04 47.97 62.36 77.96 98.99
3000 24.25 36.24 49.63 64.51 80.64 102.40
3100 25.06 37.45 51.28 66.67 83.33 105.82
3200 25.87 38.66 52.94 68.82 86.02 109.23
3300 26.68 39.87 54.59 70.97 88.71 112.64
3400 27.49 41.08 56.24 73.12 91.40 116.06
3500 28.30 42.28 57.90 75.27 94.08 119.47
3600 29.10 43.49 59.55 77.42 96.77 122.89
3700 29.91 44.70 61.21 79.57 99.46 126.30
3800 30.72 45.91 62.86 81.72 102.15 129.71
3900 31.53 47.12 64.51 83.87 104.84 133.13
4000 32.34 48.33 66.17 86.02 107.52 136.54
4100 33.15 49.53 67.82 88.17 110.21 139.95
4200 33.96 50.74 69.48 90.32 112.90 143.37
4300 34.76 51.95 71.13 92.47 115.59 146.78
4350 35.17 52.55 71.96 93.55 116.93 148.49
4400 35.57 53.16 72.79 94.62 118.28 150.19
4500 36.38 54.37 74.44 96.77 120.97 153.61
4600 37.19 55.57 76.09 98.92 123.65 157.02
4700 38.00 56.78 77.75 101.07 126.34 160.43
4750 38.40 57.39 78.58 102.15 127.69 162.14
4800 38.81 57.99 79.40 103.22 129.03 163.85
4900 39.61 59.20 81.06 105.37 131.72 167.26
5000 40.42 60.41 82.71 107.52 134.41 170.67
5100 41.23 61.62 84.37 109.68 137.09 174.09
5200 42.04 62.82 86.02 111.83 139.78 177.50
5300 42.85 64.03 87.67 113.98 142.47 180.91
5400 43.66 65.24 89.33 116.13 145.16 184.33
5500 44.47 66.45 90.98 118.28 147.85 187.74
5600 45.27 67.66 92.64 120.43 150.53 191.16
5700 46.08 68.86 94.29 122.58 153.22 194.57
5800 46.89 70.07 95.95 124.73 155.91 197.98
5900 47.70 71.28 97.60 126.88 158.60 201.40
6000 48.51 72.49 99.25 129.03 161.29 204.81
6100 49.32 73.70 100.91 131.18 163.98 208.22
6200 50.12 74.90 102.56 133.33 166.66 211.64
6300 50.93 76.11 104.22 135.48 169.35 215.05
6400 51.74 77.32 105.87 137.63 172.04 218.46
6500 52.55 78.53 107.52 139.78 174.73 221.88
6600 53.36 79.74 109.18 141.93 177.42 225.29
6700 54.17 80.95 110.83 144.08 180.10 228.70
6800 54.98 82.15 112.49 146.23 182.79 232.12
Hye06 said:
What do you mean by your shifter wasnt adjusted right? I just put mine in and I hit the limiter doing the same thing. I was accelerating somewhat hard and went to go to 4th from 3rd and totally went into 2nd. I wasn't going much over 45 (on city roads), but it scared the crap outta me.
One other time I was going from 3rd to 4th, but instead of putting the car into 4th kinda let out the clutch too soon and grinded a little bit. I think I am ok, but I swear I am hearing noises (damn noisy transmission :cuss: ).
If you could kindly share how to properly "adjust" your MGW shifter then that would be delightful.
Thanks in advance,
THC
TheHolyCobra said:
ttt. I've missed 4th and hit 2nd at leat 3-4 times with the MGW. I have the handle tilted towards the drivers seat the slightest bit.
Only mis-shift I've ever made was 5th-4th instead of 5th-6th. It happened to me a couple of times when I was still getting used to the shifter. All at low speeds, so it didn't matter. I'm very careful about my redline shifts. Don't think I'll be redlining 5th anytime soon, so I'll probably be ok, hehe.
I have done that 3rd to 2nd once myself. A shock right as it happens, cause I was like WTF. I realised that I had gone into the wrong gear somehow, but nothing was wrong and the car is running fine. It should not be anything to worry about, just dont let it happen too many times.
Excellent Speed to RPM comparison table, Black2003Cobra.
Excellent Speed to RPM comparison table, Black2003Cobra.
Black2003Cobra said:
... wow, now it doesn't sound so bad, because our cars redline at like 6500.
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