Ford Cancels the Electric F-150 | This Review Explains Why

[robvas]

I know there stereotype is a $75k full size truck to go to Home Depot and buy packs of light bulbs...

But 98% of trucks won't tow anything?

Come on. Half of the driveways in my neighborhood have a boat, camper, or utility trailer. Get on I75 and everyone's pulling something or has the bed loaded up with an insane amount of shit.

 

[SuperCharged_Coyote]

Reminds me of a LegitStreetCars video I saw recently where he took his GMC Sierra EV truck with trailer to go pick up his GMC Syclone he had just bought about 300 miles away. I think the range was close to 487 when he left the charger (said he paid about $110 to gain the 330 miles to get it up there), 406 when he hooked the trailer back up, dropped to 254 when he connected the trailer. Had to stop on the drive to charge it up again at a place that was more expensive than the previous one. But a car was plugged in to the charger next to him so it was charging slower until they left. After he said its a great truck but wouldn't recommend it for towing longer distances. Maybe just around town.

Honestly, way I feel about EVs is that they are great commuters if thats what you are looking for. Get you to work and back. Pretty much just a golf cart with a car body. I wouldn't recommend towing a boat either, as there are many times you need to get the truck deep due to low tide and such, and could definitely pose a risk dipping that massive battery in there. Especially with salt water.

 

[Klaus]

I know there stereotype is a $75k full size truck to go to Home Depot and buy packs of light bulbs...

But 98% of trucks won't tow anything?

Come on. Half of the driveways in my neighborhood have a boat, camper, or utility trailer. Get on I75 and everyone's pulling something or has the bed loaded up with an insane amount of shit.

This has always felt like such a silly argument. The people that make this all have 4 doors and rarely have passengers in the back seat. By their logic they should only be driving mopeds since most of the time there is only a single passenger in the vehicle.

 

[Relaxed Chaos]

With all the modules and added electronics on just about every new vehicle, I see no reason it won't at least go to a 24V system. We have to remember the early days of the Automobile when the cars ran on 6 Volt systems. When that was no longer enough, they switched to 12 volts and have been that way ever since. It's caught up now and the vehicles today have way more electronics that need more. Class 8 trucks are already making the switch to 24 Volt.

One big benefit with increased voltage, it less size wiring is needed. Power (Watts) = Voltage (Volts) x Current (Amps), so if power stays the same and voltage goes up, current must come down.

I also find it funny how many people say that steer-by-wire doesn't work. Guess they have never flown in a commercial airplane before.

Just like Drive-By-Wire for the Throttle. Show me how many NEW cars/trucks today that have a mechanical cable going to the throttle body? None.

I think it's amazing how far the comfort of the trucks have really come. Makes me wonder what they will be like in the next 20 years.

My Wrangler has both 12V and 48V systems.

48V is for the start/stop and e-Torque system. RAM eTorque: 6 Things You Probably Didn't Know

12V is for the regular starter, because the 48V battery can't generate enough amps to cold start the engine.

Sadly, they make it difficult (not impossible) to tap into the 48V system.

 

[Coyobra]

The actual study is behind a paywall but theres a new car survey of ~250k owners that showed 75% of truck owners tow 0 to 1 times per year. Ie they don’t tow. 70% go off road 0 to 1 times.. Trucks are cosplay for most buyers.

The moped thing is stretch, but yeah our purchasing decisions are far removed from whats practical.

 

[bird_dog0347]

Passenger EV's are not good at towing. That's not really news. I would say this, 98% of the trucks on the road NEVER tow a thing! Ever! They are Mall Crawlers at best. So it could work for the majority. What people buy is the "Idea". I could go off roading, tow a boat, go camping, climb a mountain, etc... Yet 98% will never do any of those things. But it's the "Idea" they are sold on that makes them feel better. Most will never admit it because they are too narrow minded. "I will go camping in the mountains one day!" LMAO No you won't.

I daily a 2500 HD for a few reasons, we are a family of 4 so it fits all of us comfortably and has plenty of storage with the bed cover, and I'm always driving my boys to sports or hauling "something" in the bed. I only use my truck to tow a few times a year when it's time to put the boat on the lake or back in storage, or if we want to go to a different lake or something... but when I need to tow it based on the weight I NEED a 2500 to do it safely.

So I'd say you're right that 98% of the time trucks aren't towing stuff, but I'd bet the number is way lower for trucks that never tow anything at all.