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  1. 13COBRA

    13COBRA Resident Ford Dealer Premium Member Established Member

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    No. Lower the MSRP and true cost the same.
     
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    CV355 Well-Known Member Established Member

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    I agree. I probably sound like I'm talking in circles- obviously they make profit, or they wouldn't be in business. It's just that seeing the amount of waste and complexity makes it difficult to understand how that profit is generated. Look at the numbers from the top down, and it makes sense. Look at the numbers from the bottom up and it's a nightmare.

    Management exists to ensure management exists, and end users pay out the ass so that some washed up has-been can get paid to transport a coffee cup and provide no actual use to anything in the business. We all know them. And we pay for them.
     
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  3. kevinatfms

    kevinatfms Ex-Ford/Kia/Hyundai Tech Premium Member Established Member

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    The Fusion Sport didnt get enough press. You see one or two reviews out there but nothing more than that. I feel like the SHO got more attention over its life span than the Fusion Sport did. Even in stock form they are pretty stout and with a tune they are straight sleeper material.

    They blew the new one into orbit with the interior. Its like a night and day difference from the ST we got here. Dont know what changed but damn did we get screwed.
     
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  4. Serpent

    Serpent Bike or Cobra? Established Member

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    Lol, I thought he was a foreign guy. Like the previous head of the GT500 program.
     
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  5. lexustech48

    lexustech48 RIP FoMoCo 1903-2014 Premium Member Established Member

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    Jamal Hameedi is about as American as someone can get. Letting him walk for Jaguar/Land Rover was just another dumbass mistake of Ford "leadership". Jamal should be director of Ford Performance global.

    Nope, let a quality guy walk and keep a moron like Jim Hackett at the helm..
     
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    SID297 OWNER/ADMIN Staff Member Administrator

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    They screwed Jamal out of several promotions over the years. I don't blame him for leaving.

    Hermann Salenbauch is a good director, but IMO he wears too many hats to ensure the SVT/FP lineup lives up to it's namesake.
     
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  7. Serpent

    Serpent Bike or Cobra? Established Member

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    I meant the guy before Jamal, it was a vietnamese guy, he was the guy after John coletti, basically the retro gt500 guy. Then it was Jamal, the trinity gt500 guy. Lol
     
  8. lexustech48

    lexustech48 RIP FoMoCo 1903-2014 Premium Member Established Member

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    Oh, Huy Thai-Tang? Chief engineer of the S197? According to Google he's Fords chief product development and purchasing officer.
     
  9. Serpent

    Serpent Bike or Cobra? Established Member

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    Yes we are talking about FOB. An acronym that each of is interprets as a different meaning. The way someone put it earlier, not many of us had heard of, "friend of bill".
     
  10. ON D BIT

    ON D BIT Finish First Established Member

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    Jamal was the one that created the cash cow F150 Raptor....
     
  11. 13COBRA

    13COBRA Resident Ford Dealer Premium Member Established Member

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    I think you buy Ford stock today.

    Call me crazy, but I bet it jumps $2-3 next week...just a hunch.
     
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  12. ON D BIT

    ON D BIT Finish First Established Member

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    Are they releasing track info next week?
     
  13. GTSpartan

    GTSpartan Yield right!!!! Established Member

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    20-30% bump in one week for a stodgy old car stock? This isn’t Tesla.
     
  14. lexustech48

    lexustech48 RIP FoMoCo 1903-2014 Premium Member Established Member

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    I might buy 10 shares. At least I can light up the company as minority shareholder when they do stupid shit. :D
     
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  15. 13COBRA

    13COBRA Resident Ford Dealer Premium Member Established Member

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    Nah, wont have anything to do with the GT500.
    We'll see!

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  16. Weather Man

    Weather Man Persistance Is A Bitch Premium Member Established Member

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    I bought some when the dividend yield was 7%. I'm up some and I like the 7% yield, LOL.
     
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  17. BladeX10

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    Ford has lost its damn mind the last few years
     
  18. blk02edge

    blk02edge Well-Known Member Established Member

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    As much as all of us performance guys dislike what they are doing I think you are right, they are looking at the bigger sadder picture.
     
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  19. ON D BIT

    ON D BIT Finish First Established Member

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    Performance vehicles will never drive a manufacturer. It’s the cars and trucks they can sell 500k units of that is there profit gain. Yes hot performance cars are a ton of fun but they are expensive and impractical for normal usage.

    The edge and explorer I believe are too high a price point to sell a half million vehicles a year. Ford should sell a ton of fiestas and focus but went cheap with that wretched tranny.
    Camry and accord both still sell 300k units a year. There is no reason ford can’t do that. I still say it was stupid to give up on cars. I’ve talked to a number of people who people who won’t look at ford trucks suv simply because they have no entry level hatch or family cars.
    Not to mention the contractors who buy 10+ trucks a year. They are going to dodge when once Ford was the only thing they would touch. Too expensive for base work truck.
     
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  20. kevinatfms

    kevinatfms Ex-Ford/Kia/Hyundai Tech Premium Member Established Member

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    There are only 3 things that this could mean. Bronco, Fiesta/Focus or Ranger Raptor. I know for a fact Ranger Raptor is a no. So its either bringing back the Fiesta/Focus or the Bronco will debut its look.

    Im betting on Bronco being unveiled. Still wouldnt buy stock.
     
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