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Ford Mustang is the world's best-selling 'sports car' again.

Discussion in 'Road Side Pub' started by CobraBob, Apr 13, 2021.

  1. CobraBob

    CobraBob Authorized Vendor Premium Member Established Member Single Barrel Sirs

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    I agree, combining the sales numbers of the Challenger and the Charger really makes sense. Both the Challenger and the Charger use the same 90s Mercedes Benz-derived platform, and many choose to buy the Charger over the Challenger solely for the useable back seat.


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  2. GTSpartan

    GTSpartan Yield right!!!! Established Member

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    Closer to 150K units.
     
  3. dtheo

    dtheo FUBAR Enforcer Established Member

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    I agree the CAFE does not help, but look at Corvette, they don't put out shitty base models in the vette, it is way more exclusive and costly, which is fine by me. I just believe too much sales lowers the quality value of the brand, and permanently causes the value to decrease over time as with any sports car. Only sell premium GT's, no "basic" models for cheap.
     
  4. svtfocus2cobra

    svtfocus2cobra Opprimere, Velocitas, Violentia Operandi Established Member

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    If the Challenger and Charger are together then are we going to add the sales of the Mustang and the Mach E for the same reasoning?
     
  5. Corbic

    Corbic Well-Known Member Premium Member Established Member

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    Nobody cross shops the Mustang and Mach E.

    Challenger and Charger are the exact same car with +2 doors and on every forum guys 100% cross shop them.

    It's more like combining Mustang Convertible and Hardtop sales.
     
  6. svtfocus2cobra

    svtfocus2cobra Opprimere, Velocitas, Violentia Operandi Established Member

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    Noted, but the average person who likes Mustangs or has always liked them but was never able to before, or they need a car that can haul their family will very likely look at the Mach E now. I see the same correlation being made.
     
  7. Corbic

    Corbic Well-Known Member Premium Member Established Member

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    Naw, that guy that wants a Muscle Car but needs back seats buys the Charger.

    The Mach E is the guy that bought a Fusion Energy and wants a Tesla but can't afford one.
     
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  8. 03Sssnake

    03Sssnake TK-421 Established Member Beer Money Bros.

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    FTFY
     
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  9. svtfocus2cobra

    svtfocus2cobra Opprimere, Velocitas, Violentia Operandi Established Member

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    Not everyone likes or wants a poor quality vehicle made by FCA.
     
  10. thomas91169

    thomas91169 # of bans = 5203 Established Member

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    If Ford stopped being stupid and made a 4dr sedan with the Coyote or GT500 engines in it, they would be able to add that to their "muscle car" sales figures like Dodge does with the Charger and Challenger.
     
  11. Corbic

    Corbic Well-Known Member Premium Member Established Member

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    Fixed that for you.

    Dodge literally is leading the game with awards in best "initial quality", "best reliability", best "customer appeal" as well as "most trusted brand".

    You can argue the validity of these awards, however they are actual statistical measurements instead of fanboy rhetoric.
     
  12. Corbic

    Corbic Well-Known Member Premium Member Established Member

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    And Lord knows GM has tried with thr G8 and Chevy SS. Both sales losers with only a mediocre cult following.

    Dodge grand slammed it.
     
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  13. Bensin

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    Bet you like BMW M5? The M5 is a thing because in the rest of the world the base model is a 520 powered by a 1.6L 4 syl 184hp.
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  14. Bensin

    Bensin Active Member Established Member

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    Camaro and Corvette are the only Chevrolet models in EU after the pull out. But can you call 1 as in only one dealer of Chevrolet in Sweden worldwide? Many country in EU dont even have a Chevy dealer as Camaro V8 is M3 money. The V8 tax.
    Hitta serviceverkstad
     
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    03Sssnake TK-421 Established Member Beer Money Bros.

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    In all fairness I think the pedestrian looks of those cars is what really hurt them....The G8 and Chevy SS looked like something my grandfather would buy. I can appreciate the sleeper aspect, but Joe public definitely wasn't buying it....
     
  16. Silverstrike

    Silverstrike It's to big to move FAST! Established Member

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    Again GM had no plans on selling 20 or even 30,000 SS a year like a lot of people for what ever reason keep thinking. They only wanted between 3,500 to 5,000 max a year and other than 2016 (2221 imported) they hit their mark on that goal, it was just to keep Holden afloat and to fill in the unfinished Pontiac G8 GXP contract that was never able to be fulfilled due to Pontiac getting the ax.
     
  17. GTSpartan

    GTSpartan Yield right!!!! Established Member

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    +1

    Every OEM has their problems and no one is immune to problems. But for any Ford fan to call out any other brand needs to look in the mirror. They don't have a leg to stand on.
     
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  18. thomas91169

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    Yeah I think there was other stuff going on there with the G8 and SS that made them lackluster in the sales. G8 got boned when Pontiac was axed too, which I think hurt it pretty bad.

    Ford had a great sedan platform imo (Fusion, I love ours and we're on our 4th), they should've just done what dodge did and snort a few lines of coke and go "How do we cram this here big ass engine into it and just send it?", instead Ford pulled a Ford and go "Lets make the Mustang an electric SUV!"
     
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    I have zero interest in anything FCA builds but there is no denying that they are the kings in marketing.
     
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  20. Corbic

    Corbic Well-Known Member Premium Member Established Member

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    Nobody Forced GM to do that.
     

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