I don't have a problem with it.
Got yelled at lol
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I don't have a problem with it.
I still don't begrudge you for it, but don't infer I'm a pompous dumb ass for having a different view. I do think you have a lot of good things to say (at least on here). I've actually heeded your advice on different threads. You've been around a little longer.
It's not your "different view" that makes me think of you as a pompous dumbass.
It's you BEING a pompous dumbass that sells it.
Not everyone is as "lucky" as you were in being in a combat battalion. However, just because you won the ****ing lottery doesn't mean the rest of the ****ing military gets to suspend the rest of their ****ing rules that YOU signed up for.
If a small nit from an NCO is what it takes to eventually make your buddies crack, then maybe it was ****ing time for them to go. Because we'd all sure hate for them to actually crack outside of the wire now, do we?
Thing is some people were actually calmer on patrol. Why would you want to make someone crack? What you call being pompous was just me being worn out and ready to be done. Had I had some time to regroup and did more than four I'm sure my views would've been different.
Being in the infantry isn't something I'm proud of nor is it winning a prize. If I tell people anything about my service it's just that I was in. It's even rarer that I tell what my job was. There's a bad stigma for people like me. Frankly, it's embarrassing.
Being in the infantry isn't something I'm proud of nor is it winning a prize. If I tell people anything about my service it's just that I was in. It's even rarer that I tell what my job was. There's a bad stigma for people like me. Frankly, it's embarrassing.
I think the whole "everyone that's not combat arms is a POG" mentality is stupid. As a matter of fact, the FOB that I was on in Iraq had a company of marine infantry guys on it; they did area security and guard duty.
My unit did the extra dangerous missions (I was an MP we did convoy escorts taking prisoners for medical care), the Infantry guys had a cake ass mission. Everytime I hear that POG BS I just shake my head and laugh. We got engaged on a daily basis, driving through the worst areas in baghdad (Sadr city) and 40 something people from my company got wounded during the tour and 2 KIA.
Rules and regulations are there for a reason; are some of them stupid? Yes. Are some NCOs and Officers douche bags? Yes. It's the military, and some people when they get a little bit of authority it kind of goes to their head. Some people have different pet peeves too, you have to just suck it up and drive the **** on.
My unit did the extra dangerous missions (I was an MP we did convoy escorts taking prisoners for medical care), the Infantry guys had a cake ass mission. Everytime I hear that POG BS I just shake my head and laugh. We got engaged on a daily basis, driving through the worst areas in baghdad (Sadr city) and 40 something people from my company got wounded during the tour and 2 KIA.
Rules and regulations are there for a reason; are some of them stupid? Yes. Are some NCOs and Officers douche bags? Yes. It's the military, and some people when they get a little bit of authority it kind of goes to their head. Some people have different pet peeves too, you have to just suck it up and drive the **** on.
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You damn well should be proud of being infantry, it is a tough job. Hell, I'm proud of what I accomplished and I was the most hated job in the Army.
Pay? lol
No lol I was an MP
that stigma shouldn't be there that is for sure. I hate people like that as much as I hate people that look down on the "pogs"
I will say something recently happened here that gave me a little better insight as to where you are coming from. I had a Sgt come into the help desk and we got to talking about stuff and he was telling me about a soldier that had gotten assigned to them becasue he was on "watch". he apparently tried to off himself.
turns out he is infantry but not really infantry material, he loves the army but his unit command including the NCO had been giving him shit. his PT was 180 which is acceptable but not up to infantry standards. One of his NCOs actually told him that maybe he shouldn't have joined the army in the first place, and that he didn't belong. THAT is the kind of shit this kid has been taking pretty steady. Bad leadership all around.
The Sgt said the kid is actually pretty damn smart, too smart for the infantry LOL! I told him he needs to sit the kid down, tell him that, and get him to change his MOS from infantry to 25B then he can tell those clowns to pound salt.
Sounds like good advice.
I was infantry material, I just didn't want to be after it was over. Not sure if that makes sense.
I was infantry material, I just didn't want to be after it was over. Not sure if that makes sense.
Seemed like it took magic to get any admin done.
Too40gawlf
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Ha!?!
You're a non .mil punk ass talking shit this whole time?
Go **** yourself.
I may disagree with the Airforce SNCO in this thread and some others, but I have no doubt YOU are an unfettered self hating bitch.
**** off.
Too40gawlf
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Later all.
Katy, good luck with your post-USMC stuff.
Marc, I may disagree on some aspects with you, but you are not the 'pogue' I was talking about. Clearly, you've 'been there done that' and have put your ass on the line many times.
Katy, good luck with your post-USMC stuff.
Marc, I may disagree on some aspects with you, but you are not the 'pogue' I was talking about. Clearly, you've 'been there done that' and have put your ass on the line many times.
To all the Army leaders, AR 600-100, paragraph 2-1(k).
It's not that we hate all POGs but many come off as retards when it comes to "our job". I came in as Security Forces where I went to CQB school twice which has me at an instructor qual now, so I consider myself highly trained with rifle and pistol manipulation and marksmanship. Along with that I have cross training with Designated Marksmen and breachers, trained with MARSOC in their helo-ops, tactics and raids. When it comes to training I've received some of the best. Sounds cocky but you talk to my roommate or Plt Sgt who are Afghan and Iraq vets and they'll tell you I respect and look up to them. Now that I'm in the fleet I've seen all new levels of dumb across the board from 03s to non 03s. As a Security Forces Cpl with 2 years at that rank and an automatic TL turned squad leader now I'm very disliked by many Lcpls who think they're hot shit with their 1 MEU under them where they trained in some shithole like Cambodia which makes them salty somehow. Not only are there these dumbshits but I've run across plenty of POGs at ranges we PSO'd for where they talked up a big game about doing our job but yet couldn't insert a mag right side up, do a simple immediate action, or understood that their PEQ would turn off automatically and didn't know how to turn it back on.
Thing is, I don't go around saying I can do such and such non 03 job, and most of us don't, so my bitterness is towards many non 03s who I often hear saying they can do my job with ease. Don't get me wrong, I know there are plenty of non 03s that can do my job but I judge them on an individual basis. And that's exactly what I do to most 03s that talk up a big game, but then show me they don't know shit about their own field.
I'm damn proud to be in the infantry and every man should be. No man can look down on me for my achievements or lack there of for the rest of my life because they still didn't do what I've done. My grievance is with the government and higher ups that have gutted us and tied our hands. A Lcpl openly disrespects me and I can't slap the shit out of him. They tell me, "just do the paperwork and he'll regret it later". Why will he regret it? A measly counseling can be ripped out of your jacket and half these assholes are getting out anyways so what does any of that mean to him? The guys who actually face an NJP or CT get pushed out to camp guard or some stupid shit and you hear that they're living it up there getting weekends off on top of the 2-3 days they don't work during the week. It's like their bullshit antics earned them welfare or something; they get in trouble and are then free from having to work. The leadership is weak, lazy, and in all honesty stupid. The Marine Corps is supposed to be a hardened institution yet the new breed is full of idiotic pussies. They're pushing out the "real Marines" by creating unfavorable conditions for them to perform their job. I love what the Marine Corps is and what it has done, but it has been hijacked by imbeciles.
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My school had all branches. The Marines that attended had to be SGT or SSGT so they were obviously squared away and good leaders.
The one thing that was goofy was that they couldn't be PT'd/Smoked unless it was by a Marine instructor. So you'd have 20-100 Army/Navy/Air Force dudes getting beat into the dirt and then a group of 2-10 Marines standing off to the side watching. lol
I think the justification was relating to not wanting them to get injured and pulled from class. Just felt wrong. lol
Being blunt, it was probably Marine Corps pride. No one rates to slay us unless it's us! What school was it?
NAVSCOLEOD.
I guess so. lol Just crazy from an outsiders view. I don't think you can pass the school without help from other students and then it kind of alienates them. We all knew they weren't choosing to sit out so no one got butt hurt about it.
Yeah, if it was me just how I was brought up I wouldn't allow any other service member to do anything but chew me out. Even in the Marines, it would take a certain individual to put me in the dirt and slay me. If it was just basic pt then that's weird. We pt with other branches no problem, especially the Navy.
It wasn't just normal daily PT, they did that on their own.
I guess I'm a sucker but if anyone E5 and up (regardless of branch) told me to push I'd do it. lol (If justified)
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