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lol at CA weather sucks, coming from someone in AZ. the only tolerable weather there is in Flagstaff. it topped 100 degrees a few days last year, thats it. isnt it over 100 like 4 months straight? and 100 at night? wtf? i was in Phoenix about two years ago. talk about a shithole. i know surrounding areas are nicer, but the point is, every state has its shithole areas.

we just sold our house in the san fernando valley (LA suburbs). every where you look there are homeless encampments and theft/burglaries are skyrocketing. i cant believe we sold our house for almost $1 million with homeless tents a few hundred feet away. we had to get out of LA city as its falling apart, and LA county as well. the guy we bought our house from is moving to AZ lol. and bringing a huge bank account full of cash. he outright owned his home and sold it to us for $$$.

now we're 60 miles east of LA. much closer to Gimmie11s area. there are NO homeless in the area we're moving to. and we bought a much newer, bigger, nicer home for less $. out here, its faaar more conservative. i see LGB stickers and flags all over the place. and no having to wear a mask everywhere you go. that's an LA thing (along with asking to see your Vax card). you cant judge this massive state by LA and SF alone. they are the outliers. id love to get out of here but wife wont due to family. and since she has stage 4 cancer, i cant really complain about that.

$400k in CA is $50k elsewhere? where do you live Tijuana? we make nowhere near that amount and have a nice big house and handful of cars. my brother in law is a single father and makes $130-150k a year as an ironworker (depending on OT) and he bought a very nice house in Gimmie11s city for a whopping $500k. all on his lone salary, with a teenage son whom he bought a nice car. if you cant make it on $400k you are either an idiot or living waaaaaay beyond your means. another friend makes just under $200k as a painter for the city (with OT) and lives in a nice area near LAX. his house is now at like $1.3 million. he is pretty much the sole earner and has three kids. he's constantly doing sick upgrades to his house. oh and he owns a handful of sick muscle cars and dailys an escalade.

another friend makes about $200k (mechanic at the port) and his wife, a nurse, probably $100k. they bought a $1+ million house with a view of the ocean in palos verdes. and he owns a bunch of sick cars.

and i know people who make "peanuts" who own homes out here. of course, NOW is a difficult time to buy if you dont make good money and have a sizeable down payment. my wife's cousin and her husband make maaaybe $100k combined. they bought a brand new (built for them) house in Hemet (way out in the sticks). its a nice house in a large neighborhood full of brand new homes. he has to drive to commute but he's not complaining with his mortgage. i think they paid $400k (just before Covid). she drives a new wrangler too. now she's a stay at home mom and they can easily afford their lifestyle.

granted, living in SF area/silicon valley is a different story. that may as well be on the moon lol.

the homeless problem in SF and LA is so out of control due to the easy going weather and the cities lack of enforcement (thanks to ACLU). my wifes friend works for social services in san bernadino. she said they advise people to head to LA so they can get more benefits from the city.

but dont worry, Brandon is going to make sure every state turns into a shithole by sending all the illegals your way. CA was a great state when it was run by Republicans and before they let the flood gates open at the border.

and id take LA over Chiraq or NYC any day of the week hands down. regardless of the cost of living. just like LA, outside those major cities are some nice areas to live in. but ill pass on having to use a metal detector to find my car on a winter morning after a snow storm.
Steve, are you and @gimmie11s both near Rancho Cucamonga? Based on your geographic description I'd assume so...Ontario/RC area? My wife and I used to live there about 20 years ago and loved it. It was "California-lite" IMO. Loved the area and once they built the 210 getting in/out of LA was so much easier. We have passed through RC many times on our way to LA/beaches many times (we are now living in Vegas) but haven't stopped by. It looks like it has grown quite a bit since we left.
 

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Steve, are you and @gimmie11s both near Rancho Cucamonga? Based on your geographic description I'd assume so...Ontario/RC area? My wife and I used to live there about 20 years ago and loved it. It was "California-lite" IMO. Loved the area and once they built the 210 getting in/out of LA was so much easier. We have passed through RC many times on our way to LA/beaches many times (we are now living in Vegas) but haven't stopped by. It looks like it has grown quite a bit since we left.

That’s an understatement on the growth of the area. However having just left that area and found a climate exactly similar/cooler side in northern AZ it isn’t just all hot here. I am from the inland empire born and raised; if someone just moved there it will seem nice but it is a shell of what it once was. I lived there whole life till September last year and don’t plan on going back. San Bernardino where I last lived is a literal shithole filled to the brim with homeless and trash, much of the same is prevalent in the inland empire just people swear it is nice out in the IE but it isn’t. For such a beautiful town it really has gone to shit in the IE in the past 15 years with no plans to stop other than see how far it can go down.

But keep in mind I am not a “real conservative” according to some here…

Also anyone here having just moved out there to the IE and swear the weather is worse than AZ needs a reality check. The IE can get into the 120’s easily and as someone who lived there damn near my whole life I can tell you it can get brutally hot and rival AZ as the smog and humidity compound to make it worse.
 
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im in Eastvale now which used to be Mira Loma. the entire city was cow farms and is about 20 years old now. so everything looks new. schools, parks, houses etc... its a bit congested since they cram as many houses as they can into a building tract but they dont build big property homes like they used to a LONG time ago. but i see ZERO homeless, no graffiti and no trash on the streets. we wanted to move to Chino Hills which is really nice but would get way less for our money. im told eastvale has lots of cops and firemen living here. Rancho isnt too far. GTR is where ill take my car when i need to. before it was 1.5 hour drive there lol

Gimmie11s lives in Murrieta. my brother in law bought his new house there in a pretty new neighborhood with nice big houses. we really like that area but its just too far for my wife's commute.

id agree the city of san berdo is a shithole. somehow the poor ghetto people of LA got transferred out there. that city is always in the news for shootings etc... that was not even remotely on the radar.

ontario is a massive city. my mother just bought a near new townhome in ontario ranch area. its a really nice area and just on the border of eastvale.

i havent been to san bernadino in i dont know how long. havent had a reason to go there. all the cities near where im living now are far better than being in LA city these days.


909venom, did you move to Flagstaff? that is one city in AZ i could move to.
 

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Wah!!!! You need a bucket for all those tears? Or will Cali fine you for capturing the tears. CA sucks, it's a fact. Using your over leveraged family as an example is laughable.
Fatboy was the one slapping his dick on the table bragging about making $400k/yr. It's a respectable salary but it don't nearly go as far in CA as it does in free America, nor does it make you rich. Around here it affords you a comfortable existence but still just a middle class one.


I would move to Maine in a heartbeat............from May to September, and then I'm tapping out.
Didnt your state vote for biden? Same state that cant build bridges.
 

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im in Eastvale now which used to be Mira Loma. the entire city was cow farms and is about 20 years old now. so everything looks new. schools, parks, houses etc... its a bit congested since they cram as many houses as they can into a building tract but they dont build big property homes like they used to a LONG time ago. but i see ZERO homeless, no graffiti and no trash on the streets. we wanted to move to Chino Hills which is really nice but would get way less for our money. im told eastvale has lots of cops and firemen living here. Rancho isnt too far. GTR is where ill take my car when i need to. before it was 1.5 hour drive there lol

Gimmie11s lives in Murrieta. my brother in law bought his new house there in a pretty new neighborhood with nice big houses. we really like that area but its just too far for my wife's commute.

id agree the city of san berdo is a shithole. somehow the poor ghetto people of LA got transferred out there. that city is always in the news for shootings etc... that was not even remotely on the radar.

ontario is a massive city. my mother just bought a near new townhome in ontario ranch area. its a really nice area and just on the border of eastvale.

i havent been to san bernadino in i dont know how long. havent had a reason to go there. all the cities near where im living now are far better than being in LA city these days.


909venom, did you move to Flagstaff? that is one city in AZ i could move to.

I moved to kingman, AZ; about 2 hours from flagstaff. This area of AZ isn’t to dissimilar to the way the IE or the high desert used to be during the 70’s and 80’s; or rather what my father used to tell me about the IE. It’s nice to drive about a mile from my home and go sight in my guns and no one cares. There are towns surrounding Murrieta that appear to be nice but really are dangerous and rather shady. My hometown of Fontana is like this; we moved to SB in 06 as fontana cracked down hard on “beautifucation” laws (grass being dead, too many cars in the driveway, etc) and is why my family moved to SB as my father got slapped with a $750 ticket for his work truck being out in the driveway.
Rialto is another city where appearances are not what they are as there is a massive gang presence; much larger than SB.

Also I would agree with you that even SB is better than LA. I haven’t been into LA willingly since me and my wife started dating in 2016.
 

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Well if you count the 800,000 vote dump after polls closed that erased Trump's 700k lead then yeah. And we can build bridges, we just haven't built one in 100 years.
Lol sounds like an excuse to me. Just fails around i guess.
 

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I'm currently a Program Manager at a company that primarily engineers and manufactures the machines that etch silicon wafers. The company also makes deposition machines and has an incredible spare parts and existing products upgrades business. Our chambers that etch wafers sell for north of $750k a piece, and the company sold somewhere north of 5000 of them last year.

I run engineering development programs. The marketing folks identify segments on the etch market that are currently underserved, or that we think we can make money in. The goal is to make about 50% gross margin and about 30% operating margin. I assemble the team comprised of mechanical, electrical, systems, and process engineers and we develop the chamber to meet the very stringent technical goals. We do deep silicon etch, where the chamber is capable of etching trenches in silicon that are upwards of 40 times deeper than they are wide. The sidewall angles need to be vertical to within 1%. The bottom needs to be rounded. We can't have any undercut or bowing. And it has to be almost perfectly consistent on depth across the wafer, measuring 8 or 12 inches. All of that requires a prototype chamber that the process engineers run thousands of wafers over many months to achieve the on wafer performance specified in the marketing specifications.

The chambers essentially heat the wafer, pull a vacuum, then alternately pulse etch gasses and deposition gasses that protect the sidewalls of the trenches up to several times a second, while the chamber volume is hit with RF energy turning the gasses into a plasma. Controlling that plasma is the art and science of the whole process.

Then engineers do the heavy lifting, and I run the meetings, drive activities to due dates, and present status updates to the execs.

If your kids are looking to make a lot of money and do very interesting things in their jobs, urge them to get a masters or PhD in physics or electrical engineering. the process engineers all have one of those backgrounds. We pay PhD's mid six figures first year out of college. If they're "just" mechanically inclined, there's a lot of room to make a lot of money as a mechanical engineer.
That sounds really interesting. If I'm ever in that part of the world I'll hit you up for a "Bring a stranger that I know on the internet day". I'm going to send this post to my kids as well.
Thanks for the info.
 

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California is legitimately a trash can due to the soft policies surrounding criminal activities and the homelessness, in particular the acceptance of bum tent camps in surrounding creeks, highway overpasses/sound walls and parks.

I can’t stand it. I’m leaving Contra Costa County which has allowed homeless camps to sprout up in Oakley and Brentwood in the last couple years, the fires and nuisance issues in the last year is cause enough to remove them but city and county officials do nothing.

My house is under contract and I’m scheduled to move to Placer County in 1 month. I’m ready to go. I’m ready to leave my employer BART with their anti-worker bullshit and anti-worker vaccine policy mandates. They also are taking anti-hybrid remote work policy even tho they provided a 2 day remote policy, word is no one will be approved since COVID is magically going away.

OP you live in the 680 corridor between 24 and 580 so you could be insulated from a lot of what is going on in the country where I live.

If I could leave I would but it’s not quite time for us to go due to family dependencies.
 

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My house is under contract and I’m scheduled to move to Placer County in 1 month. I’m ready to go.
You'll love Placer County compared to Contra Costa. Totally different, much friendlier people especially when you get out east towards Auburn. Roseville sucks hopefully you aren't moving there.
 

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California is legitimately a trash can due to the soft policies surrounding criminal activities and the homelessness, in particular the acceptance of bum tent camps in surrounding creeks, highway overpasses/sound walls and parks.

I can’t stand it. I’m leaving Contra Costa County which has allowed homeless camps to sprout up in Oakley and Brentwood in the last couple years, the fires and nuisance issues in the last year is cause enough to remove them but city and county officials do nothing.

My house is under contract and I’m scheduled to move to Placer County in 1 month. I’m ready to go. I’m ready to leave my employer BART with their anti-worker bullshit and anti-worker vaccine policy mandates. They also are taking anti-hybrid remote work policy even tho they provided a 2 day remote policy, word is no one will be approved since COVID is magically going away.

OP you live in the 680 corridor between 24 and 580 so you could be insulated from a lot of what is going on in the country where I live.

If I could leave I would but it’s not quite time for us to go due to family dependencies.

You are correct. I can’t believe how bad cc county is with just the Covid nonsense. We are insulated from some. Homeless roaming and building camps is definitely making its way to us. Only a matter of time before it gets worse.


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You'll love Placer County compared to Contra Costa. Totally different, much friendlier people especially when you get out east towards Auburn. Roseville sucks hopefully you aren't moving there.
I’m moving to Rocklin.

It’s a major change compared to CoCo. More relaxed on the COVID rules and people are more friendly and willing to stop and chat with us.
 

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California is legitimately a trash can due to the soft policies surrounding criminal activities and the homelessness, in particular the acceptance of bum tent camps in surrounding creeks, highway overpasses/sound walls and parks.

I can’t stand it. I’m leaving Contra Costa County which has allowed homeless camps to sprout up in Oakley and Brentwood in the last couple years, the fires and nuisance issues in the last year is cause enough to remove them but city and county officials do nothing.

My house is under contract and I’m scheduled to move to Placer County in 1 month. I’m ready to go. I’m ready to leave my employer BART with their anti-worker bullshit and anti-worker vaccine policy mandates. They also are taking anti-hybrid remote work policy even tho they provided a 2 day remote policy, word is no one will be approved since COVID is magically going away.

OP you live in the 680 corridor between 24 and 580 so you could be insulated from a lot of what is going on in the country where I live.

If I could leave I would but it’s not quite time for us to go due to family dependencies.
Let's not forget the (general) obscenely high housing costs in CA.
 

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California is legitimately a trash can due to the soft policies surrounding criminal activities and the homelessness, in particular the acceptance of bum tent camps in surrounding creeks, highway overpasses/sound walls and parks.

I can’t stand it. I’m leaving Contra Costa County which has allowed homeless camps to sprout up in Oakley and Brentwood in the last couple years, the fires and nuisance issues in the last year is cause enough to remove them but city and county officials do nothing.

My house is under contract and I’m scheduled to move to Placer County in 1 month. I’m ready to go. I’m ready to leave my employer BART with their anti-worker bullshit and anti-worker vaccine policy mandates. They also are taking anti-hybrid remote work policy even tho they provided a 2 day remote policy, word is no one will be approved since COVID is magically going away.

OP you live in the 680 corridor between 24 and 580 so you could be insulated from a lot of what is going on in the country where I live.

If I could leave I would but it’s not quite time for us to go due to family dependencies.
I watch bakerxderek on youtube, SB is probably the biggest shit hole in cali. No offense. But there are nice homes on the hills per usual.
Its like that in the bay area too, east san jose is a ghetto but slowly becoming too expensive, then once you start going up hill the homes go up to 10+ million. Gotta have that view on the hill anywhere in cali.
 

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I moved to kingman, AZ; about 2 hours from flagstaff. This area of AZ isn’t to dissimilar to the way the IE or the high desert used to be during the 70’s and 80’s; or rather what my father used to tell me about the IE. It’s nice to drive about a mile from my home and go sight in my guns and no one cares. There are towns surrounding Murrieta that appear to be nice but really are dangerous and rather shady. My hometown of Fontana is like this; we moved to SB in 06 as fontana cracked down hard on “beautifucation” laws (grass being dead, too many cars in the driveway, etc) and is why my family moved to SB as my father got slapped with a $750 ticket for his work truck being out in the driveway.
Rialto is another city where appearances are not what they are as there is a massive gang presence; much larger than SB.

Also I would agree with you that even SB is better than LA. I haven’t been into LA willingly since me and my wife started dating in 2016.
I have family in Havasu and visit quite often. When I lived in AZ I had a few people try to convince me to move to Kingman. But I ended up joining the Navy.
 

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I’m moving to Rocklin.

It’s a major change compared to CoCo. More relaxed on the COVID rules and people are more friendly and willing to stop and chat with us.
My in-laws live in rocklin. You’ll like it there.
 

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Let's not forget the (general) obscenely high housing costs in CA.
I suppose it’s good for those who do own but not good for those who are looking to buy first time.

Then again, I know there are lots of expensive areas but there are plenty of affordable areas too.

I watch bakerxderek on youtube, SB is probably the biggest shit hole in cali. No offense. But there are nice homes on the hills per usual.
Its like that in the bay area too, east san jose is a ghetto but slowly becoming too expensive, then once you start going up hill the homes go up to 10+ million. Gotta have that view on the hill anywhere in cali.
I’ll have to check this out. Before COVID we took yearly end of summer trips to SB and would hate to see it also suffer the same fate as many tourists destinations in CA.
My in-laws live in rocklin. You’ll like it there.
Nice! Thanks.
 

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Meanwhile, in LA there were near riots last night outside the Super Bowl, with one person shot, crowds shaking and jumping on cars, and a heavy police presence attempting to disperse the out of control crowds. Yeah, welcome to LA! Things are only getting worse in so many areas in CA.
 

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