Getting ready for a motor build. What rods should I use. Oliver or Manley I beam and why. Thanks in advance
Oliver or Manley I beams
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Hands down the Manley Billet I beam, the rod cross section is much thicker, bottom line, we could not make anything over 1200HP with the oliver without bending them, we tried them 3 times, we switched to the Manley and the same set is still running in Don and Dana cooks engine to this day making over 1800HP !!
We offer 2 versions, the 14319 and the 14321, the first part # is good up to 1400, the second should be used from there up. Both include ARP 2000 bolts, both are 7/16 (BIG bolts).
BTW, we have the best prices on Manley rods - guaranteed- just call!
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We offer 2 versions, the 14319 and the 14321, the first part # is good up to 1400, the second should be used from there up. Both include ARP 2000 bolts, both are 7/16 (BIG bolts).
BTW, we have the best prices on Manley rods - guaranteed- just call!
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805 383 4130
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they use the same size 7/16 bolts. you can't go wrong with either rod. i have Oliver in my motor.
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FWIW, the Manley forged H-beams are a really strong rod at half the price of a set of billet rods. I'm personally not aware of a 5.4 engine failure due to one of these rods breaking. General consensus seems to be that they're good to about 1,000 hp, but I do know guys that have pushed them further than that without failure. It just depends on what your horsepower goals are.
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there are numerous guys using Oliver on Yellow Bullet making 2k HP. multiple guys state they're the best steel rod they ever used.
how does the Oliver Billet I Beam Rod factor in this conversation?
OP asked Oliver or Manley I beams
Maybe Im thinking of the Corrillo(sp?)?
Carrillo uses 3/8 bolt, just like Manley H-beam.
Which means I confused Carrillo(3/8) for Oliver(7/16). Oh well. I'd still buy the Manleys. lol
I put Manley H beams in my 5.4 because I've never heard of anyone breaking them and you cant beat the H beams for the price.
go into the Terminator section and look for broken Manley H-beams. they're a good rod and with the ARP2000 bolt option good for 1k hp. my wife gave me one shot at building my motor, so i went Oliver.
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Manley's here and I can't complain.. It's what came in the first built motor I bought used on here so I reused them.. I can't say which is better Oliver or Manley, but in all honesty either or will do just fine.
Thanks to all who responded. I was leaning towards the manley but wanted some confirmation.
don't cheap out on pistons, get a 2618 alloy piston.
Ok Ill bring them up with my builder tommorow. Thanks
Not in a 5.4 Modular!! , the problem with the 5.4 is the VERY long rod (6.658"), the longer the rod, the easier to bend. Even the Manley H beam will take more abuse than the Oliver I beam - This is not another internet opinion, we have proven it!
To the OP, if you are looking for the best piston available take a look at the MMR M2500R pistons, 2618 alloy, tested by MMR up to 2500HP! No other piston manufacturer can claim this for a modular piston! :beer:
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Talked to my builder, he is already planning to use your mmr m2500r pistons.
Nelson Race Engines has. I've also seen your motors come with rod bolts installed upside down, drop a valve on start-up and spin a bearing on start up. maybe it's the builder.
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