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Yes that would be correct. But... Where is this lift coming from? Also, when we go back to the roots here, I have never said they should have gone with a full blown offroad truck. I'm well aware of the impossibility for an OEM to do that

Technically, just the height of the tire since really all you’re doing is moving the tire out to allow more articulation, which in theory would probably offset or at least stabilize the change in center of gravity. That said, then we’re into changing total width of the vehicle which the Bronco is clearly a smaller vehicle so they could go wider to fit 37s and still be at the same or less overall width as the full size trucks. Do you see my point here?
 

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Looks like you put on your monster energy flat brim and white Oakley's! Well done. Only problem is extended shocks is not totally correct unless you are moving the upper Mount... Or coilovers quickly become bump stops

You realize that you can add some extended throw shocks / coil overs on a truck with IFS and not have to modify the upper mount, right? Riiiiight?

Go ahead, ask me how I know... lol
 

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Strut spacers/long shock body... Effectively.. same thing... Both scenarios you are making the shock shaft shorter (bump stroke) and over extending your CV angles unless you are strapped.

Have you ever cycled the suspension with the spring removed?
 

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A mid or long travel kit can be lower than stock. It has nothing to do with the length of shock. Length of shock and spring rate are set points on where your lower mounts are in relation to the upper Mount while rates are simply calculated on vehicle weight. Preload is then adjusted to get your desired height.

Fun fact on the Raptor, the factory perches are adjustable to add preload ie: height. The TRX will likely also have factory preload adjustment

You edited your comment so I’ll answer this. Yes, it could potentially sit lower, that’s assuming you have sufficient room to allow the tire to sink in the chassis among other things. We could talk suspension theory all day, the point I was making is most people are not going to alter a 100k vehicle to make room for them and two, we honestly don’t know what constraints the engineers were under in design and approval.

Just a small change in frame width considerably raises the overall width of you added longer arms for increased travel, and they were shoehorning that damn blown v8 in there. We also know Dodge significantly increased the frame rigidity for this over the 1500, possibly do to issues Ford experienced in the first Gen Raptor.

If anything, I would think Ford had more opportunity to do it than Dodge, being they had a more compact v6, but then you have to consider packaging with turbos and associated piping. Like I said, you can’t compare the different platforms.
 

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Strut spacers/long shock body... Effectively.. same thing... Both scenarios you are making the shock shaft shorter (bump stroke) and over extending your CV angles unless you are strapped.

Have you ever cycled the suspension with the spring removed?

Bro, who is talking about “hockey pucks”..?? Lol

you might have not paid attention to the pic I posted. Which is a far cry from the oem bilstein shock with a puck on top...

I have bilstein 6112’s which is essentially like a coil over. It has perches for adjustability. 0”-2.5” over stock. No issues. And I PUNISH these mother****ers.

CV angles are a bit more aggressive but like everything, I consider that a “wear” item. Lol
 

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You edited your comment so I’ll answer this. Yes, it could potentially sit lower, that’s assuming you have sufficient room to allow the tire to sink in the chassis among other things. We could talk suspension theory all day, the point I was making is most people are not going to alter a 100k vehicle to make room for them and two, we honestly don’t know what constraints the engineers were under in design and approval.

Just a small change in frame width considerably raises the overall width of you added longer arms for increased travel, and they were shoehorning that damn blown v8 in there. We also know Dodge significantly increased the frame rigidity for this over the 1500, possibly do to issues Ford experienced in the first Gen Raptor.

If anything, I would think Ford had more opportunity to do it than Dodge, being they had a more compact v6, but then you have to consider packaging with turbos and associated piping. Like I said, you can’t compare the different platforms.
You aware that the point of these trucks is the ability to tuck a tire as well as droop it right? Static height is irrelevant... For 100k and all the bragging rights I'd expect more... Dodge can release a car from the factory with radials, skinnys and a race gas tune I think they could have put in poly bushings (rubber doesn't travel) and a correct size shock. They could have quite easily packaged 16" of travel and a separate bypass for that kind of dough and truly been the OEM dirt king
 

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You aware that the point of these trucks is the ability to tuck a tire as well as droop it right? Static height is irrelevant... For 100k and all the bragging rights I'd expect more... Dodge can release a car from the factory with radials, skinnys and a race gas tune I think they could have put in poly bushings (rubber doesn't travel) and a correct size shock. They could have quite easily packaged 16" of travel and a separate bypass for that kind of dough and truly been the OEM dirt king

This was my expectations as well but when I say I am let down by the TRX I am just a " hater" because I own a raptor
 

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You aware that the point of these trucks is the ability to tuck a tire as well as droop it right? Static height is irrelevant... For 100k and all the bragging rights I'd expect more... Dodge can release a car from the factory with radials, skinnys and a race gas tune I think they could have put in poly bushings (rubber doesn't travel) and a correct size shock. They could have quite easily packaged 16" of travel and a separate bypass for that kind of dough and truly been the OEM dirt king

Jesus, you are dense. It’s not just about could, there are a million considerations in play. I’d say they bought bragging rights with a warrantied 700+ horse truck that can handle 90% of trails while still outrunning 98% of the current vehicles offered and doesn’t sound like a Mexican after lunch in a port-a-potty.

Ford could have done more as well but I haven’t seen you detach your mouth from their nuts long enough to consider that.

Edited* just to mention, how many buyers are buying them to have a lowered 4 wheel drive vehicle? How many do you see do that with any truck outside of off-road enthusiast wanting a Baja rig? Essentially none, it’s called a target audience and you still haven’t seemed to grasp that.
 

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Jesus, you are dense. It’s not just about could, there are a million considerations in play. I’d say they bought bragging rights with a warrantied 700+ horse truck that can handle 90% of trails while still outrunning 98% of the current vehicles offered and doesn’t sound like a Mexican after lunch in a port-a-potty.

Ford could have done more as well but I haven’t seen you detach your mouth from their nuts long enough to consider that.

Ford could have done more.....please explain . More the lead the way in this segment? More than best up on the ram rebel or the hack job prerunner used compete against the Gen 1?


Ram could have done more because they have had 10 years to do more and they didn't. The took the lazy dodge way out and slapped a hellcat motor in a truck with copied and pasted out going gen 2 raptor spec suspension
 

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Bro, who is talking about “hockey pucks”..?? Lol

you might have not paid attention to the pic I posted. Which is a far cry from the oem bilstein shock with a puck on top...

I have bilstein 6112’s which is essentially like a coil over. It has perches for adjustability. 0”-2.5” over stock. No issues. And I PUNISH these mother****ers.

CV angles are a bit more aggressive but like everything, I consider that a “wear” item. Lol
Your 0-2.5 adjustment is preload... Yes I am aware of people putting in longer shocks with the stock mounts but it is an incorrect. All you gain is broken CV's
 

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Jesus, you are dense. It’s not just about could, there are a million considerations in play. I’d say they bought bragging rights with a warrantied 700+ horse truck that can handle 90% of trails while still outrunning 98% of the current vehicles offered and doesn’t sound like a Mexican after lunch in a port-a-potty.

Ford could have done more as well but I haven’t seen you detach your mouth from their nuts long enough to consider that.

Edited* just to mention, how many buyers are buying them to have a lowered 4 wheel drive vehicle? How many do you see do that with any truck outside of off-road enthusiast wanting a Baja rig? Essentially none, it’s called a target audience and you still haven’t seemed to grasp that.
I'm sad to say that no, it is you that is dense, if you are part of the crowd who is happy eating boogers in his sweet ass trophy Baja 5000 buggy while sitting in traffic bragging about his 700hp on pencil dick 2.5's then I'm not the problem. You are.

You have not typed one coherent offroad based sentence yet so get your pal Corbic to help you figure out what mid travel is before you try and school me
 

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Ford could have done more.....please explain . More the lead the way in this segment? More than best up on the ram rebel or the hack job prerunner used compete against the Gen 1?


Ram could have done more because they have had 10 years to do more and they didn't. The took the lazy dodge way out and slapped a hellcat motor in a truck with copied and pasted out going gen 2 raptor spec suspension

Triggered!

Just enjoy the fart can sound in cab of a mediocre interior while you get passed by the TRX screaming the sound of freedom out the tailpipes as it’s escorted by a pair of eagles flying overhead. Because ‘Merica!
 
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Triggered!

Just enjoy the fart can sound in can of a mediocre interior while you get passed by the TRX screaming the sound of freedom out the tailpipes as it’s escorted by a pair of eagles flying overhead. Because ‘Merica!

Lol....I will give you mediocre interior. The rest is laughable at best. You still didn't answer the question. You said Ford could have done more and I asked you what you meant.....are you going to answer?
 

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Your 0-2.5 adjustment is preload... Yes I am aware of people putting in longer shocks with the stock mounts but it is an incorrect. All you gain is broken CV's

Alright man, you convinced me... but you’re barking up the wrong tree. Make sure and voice your concerns with Bilstein, King, Fox, Icon, ADS, etc. Apparently, they don’t know dafuq they are doing.

You can have the banana! I’m outtie!
 

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