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Raptor towing good and bad?
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<blockquote data-quote="Bad Company" data-source="post: 14125387" data-attributes="member: 141815"><p>Guys I've driven highly modified(1200 RWHP) tractor trailers for over a million miles locally in the Washington DC region with its heavy traffic. I've run TTs in triple digits grossing high gross weights. I know what is stable and what isn't stable when sitting in the seat doing things that you're not supposed to while towing a trailer behind me. I'd rather make an evasive maneuver grossing in excess of 100,000 lbs in one of the tractor trailers I've owned over the last 15 years at 80 or 90 mph than try to make that same type of maneuver when I was pulling the 18' bumper pull utility trailer with my Shelby on it with my Raptor as the tow vehicle at 65 mph. Now I didn't have a weight distributing hitch. I did load the car towards the rear more than I would have normally to reduce tongue weight on the truck. I also did this to keep the truck from squatting too much in the rear while lifting the front end for less steer axle traction. The 2010 SuperCab Raptor I had, had serious body roll that got my attention immediately when pulling the loaded trailer in the twisty turns of I495 around the NW section of DC at 65mph. The 2014 SuperCrew Raptor I bought Friday has much less body roll to begin with, when compared to the old SuperCab when empty. So I'd expect there to be less body roll when loaded also. The other thing I've noticed about the SuperCrew is the frame is much heavier between the firewall and the front spring mount for the rear axle with a much heavier boxed crossmember between the rails in the mid section of this area. This may also help with frame flex and why the new truck feels much more stable in a corner when compared to my old Raptor. </p><p></p><p>Would I tow with the new Raptor for short jaunts? Yes. But I would invest in the lightest possible trailer with the lowest possible deck height to reduce the trailer center of gravity. I'd do a WD hitch to combat the low spring rates of the rear axle on the Raptor. I'd even consider changing the springs if I was going to tow regularly. The SuperCab is shorter in wheelbase, which also contributes to less stability in evasive maneuvers. Over the years of driving TT the longer the wheelbase of the tow vehicle(tractor), the less the trailer can influence its instability at speed. So buy a SuperCrew if you are seriously considering a Raptor as a primary tow vehicle. If for any reason the trailer starts to sway the Raptor..........it is going to react badly in my opinion. You may have the tail wagging the dog and the final results may not be pretty.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bad Company, post: 14125387, member: 141815"] Guys I've driven highly modified(1200 RWHP) tractor trailers for over a million miles locally in the Washington DC region with its heavy traffic. I've run TTs in triple digits grossing high gross weights. I know what is stable and what isn't stable when sitting in the seat doing things that you're not supposed to while towing a trailer behind me. I'd rather make an evasive maneuver grossing in excess of 100,000 lbs in one of the tractor trailers I've owned over the last 15 years at 80 or 90 mph than try to make that same type of maneuver when I was pulling the 18' bumper pull utility trailer with my Shelby on it with my Raptor as the tow vehicle at 65 mph. Now I didn't have a weight distributing hitch. I did load the car towards the rear more than I would have normally to reduce tongue weight on the truck. I also did this to keep the truck from squatting too much in the rear while lifting the front end for less steer axle traction. The 2010 SuperCab Raptor I had, had serious body roll that got my attention immediately when pulling the loaded trailer in the twisty turns of I495 around the NW section of DC at 65mph. The 2014 SuperCrew Raptor I bought Friday has much less body roll to begin with, when compared to the old SuperCab when empty. So I'd expect there to be less body roll when loaded also. The other thing I've noticed about the SuperCrew is the frame is much heavier between the firewall and the front spring mount for the rear axle with a much heavier boxed crossmember between the rails in the mid section of this area. This may also help with frame flex and why the new truck feels much more stable in a corner when compared to my old Raptor. Would I tow with the new Raptor for short jaunts? Yes. But I would invest in the lightest possible trailer with the lowest possible deck height to reduce the trailer center of gravity. I'd do a WD hitch to combat the low spring rates of the rear axle on the Raptor. I'd even consider changing the springs if I was going to tow regularly. The SuperCab is shorter in wheelbase, which also contributes to less stability in evasive maneuvers. Over the years of driving TT the longer the wheelbase of the tow vehicle(tractor), the less the trailer can influence its instability at speed. So buy a SuperCrew if you are seriously considering a Raptor as a primary tow vehicle. If for any reason the trailer starts to sway the Raptor..........it is going to react badly in my opinion. You may have the tail wagging the dog and the final results may not be pretty. [/QUOTE]
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