Tuned my Whippple A6 and couldn't be happier. It went from undrivable to a kick ass good time! It was done quickly and he's very open and honest. If your looking for help he's the guy.
Thanks again,
Nick B
Thanks again,
Nick B
THANKS SAI LI
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I asked him about giving me some advice on tuning my car and the reply I got was "if you have to ask for help then you shouldn't be trying to tune a car"
I guess he just woke up one day knowing how to tune coyotes.....
I guess he just woke up one day knowing how to tune coyotes.....
Education isnt free My friend. Sorry he wouldn't teach you how to tune your car. Maybe try EFI University, but I think they charge as well.
Pretty sure everyone gets paid to tune.
Pretty sure everyone gets paid to tune.
All he had to do was say "sorry I can't help you".
Imo, If you're gonna have a race car you need to be able to tune it yourself anyway. I've had plenty of experience with older stuff, but this is my first coyote.
Imo, If you're gonna have a race car you need to be able to tune it yourself anyway. I've had plenty of experience with older stuff, but this is my first coyote.
Btw.... I did offer to pay him.
You gotta start somewhere I think Sai can attest to that he started out behind the counter at Advance Auto.
Hijacked the thread, I love it!
He told me how he got started and why. I get it, but every tuner you deal with seems to have something someone doesn't like.
You want to learn to tune your own car and that's great but it's not easy.
You must have figured out its not a couple hours and your done.
I know a lot off pro's that don't tune there own cars. Guys like Steve Petty make a good living tuning multiple cars at races from pro mod to 275 drag radial.
He did a great job on my car and I wanted to thank him publicly.
Stop by at NMRA Bradenton and we'll talk more guys unless your still at home typing..... I'll be racing
He told me how he got started and why. I get it, but every tuner you deal with seems to have something someone doesn't like.
You want to learn to tune your own car and that's great but it's not easy.
You must have figured out its not a couple hours and your done.
I know a lot off pro's that don't tune there own cars. Guys like Steve Petty make a good living tuning multiple cars at races from pro mod to 275 drag radial.
He did a great job on my car and I wanted to thank him publicly.
Stop by at NMRA Bradenton and we'll talk more guys unless your still at home typing..... I'll be racing
Another happy Sai Li tuned customer here as well.
I don't know of a single tuner who will "teach" you how to tune, outside of the tuning classes you can pay for. It's their intellectual property, so to speak, and it's how they make a living.
I don't know of a single tuner who will "teach" you how to tune, outside of the tuning classes you can pay for. It's their intellectual property, so to speak, and it's how they make a living.
I'm tuned by Sai as well and have no real issues with him at all. Sai is one hell of a tuner and I can see him not wanting to many of his tricks getting out.
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Yeah it would take a huge amount of time to teach someone, depending on their skill level especially. The HP Tuners Forum is a great resource. I have read through a couple of how to books on Coyote tuning. Can't say I'm particularly impressed with either, but both put forward a pretty good effort. I have yet to get info from anyone to the effect of
"You modify this table because of x. Table x + y equals the values that the car needs to do z."
Or in other words, definitive information. In my opinion almost no one truly knows how these things work on a large scale, or the relationship between various tables and values in the PCM (or they haven't proven it to me in a tuning course). I at least want to know why I'm doing what I'm doing. The general collective it seems has worked out which tables to mess with to keep cars from doing stupid stuff. Just face it dude, some people are born understanding Ford's quadratic speed density function. Don't worry in a couple more generations practically no one will be able to tune these things they will either be encrypted or far too difficult to mess with. The people that are great at now I bet have a pretty deep understanding of the code behind their tuning software or have good connections with the OEM's. The ones that are good at it truly are some really smart cookies.
"You modify this table because of x. Table x + y equals the values that the car needs to do z."
Or in other words, definitive information. In my opinion almost no one truly knows how these things work on a large scale, or the relationship between various tables and values in the PCM (or they haven't proven it to me in a tuning course). I at least want to know why I'm doing what I'm doing. The general collective it seems has worked out which tables to mess with to keep cars from doing stupid stuff. Just face it dude, some people are born understanding Ford's quadratic speed density function. Don't worry in a couple more generations practically no one will be able to tune these things they will either be encrypted or far too difficult to mess with. The people that are great at now I bet have a pretty deep understanding of the code behind their tuning software or have good connections with the OEM's. The ones that are good at it truly are some really smart cookies.
Very well said! Finding a computer code programmer that is into modifying cars is very very rare. They usually have the money to have it done for them lol.
I have some good experience with statistics, and a small amount with tuning, but it seems like the two go hand in hand.
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