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Discussion in '2020+ Shelby GT500 Mustang' started by Wilson & Co, Feb 14, 2019.
This is hilarious and pathetic.
Where's the guy that told me salesman are generally good people and me wasting their time only teaches them to be shitty?
I was just about to put that vid up but glad I checked first...………...that sales guy has to be smoking better weed than what is legal now in Canada.
Read the comments they are good...……………...this vid gave me a good laugh today...……………..it'll get me by till we finally get the important info on this ride.
If people are stupid enough to buy into that bull shit, then so be it.
I think ADMs are stupid, but I’m also not so naive that I don’t know why they exist or think they should be outlawed/controlled.
Money talks. There are people who have the means to pay whatever they feel appropriate. Good for them.
The rest of us can sit here and shake our heads at videos like this.
How do i get my letter? Lol
I just got word from one of my local dealers that there will be a $20,000 ADM. Assuming the base price is going to be high $60K to low $70K and the loaded price is $82K, there is no way I am going to pay $90-102K plus tax and license for a Mustang.
I don't see the concerns here... Seems like free market at work, Ford can only build them so fast, and there is clearly demand for the cars as evidenced by the hundreds of pages of our comments for the past few years waiting for the littlest bit of news... So now the first GT500 auctioned for in excess of 1M, that's a stiff ADM, and what about the next ten, if you want one of these be prepared to step up to the plate because all the dealers have their best friends and customers in line with a checkbook in hand... So it makes no sense for anyone to expect the first few hundreds of cars will not be immediately sold and that dealers are doing nothing wrong by letting buyers bid them up. So if you want one even during the first year, the only option is to go to your dealer and bid for it. And if you were lucky enough to buy one of the first few, then decide to sell the next day, you would certainly get ADM too. So, ADM is just the market pricing adjustment given the supply and demand. Nothing to hate except the 1%ers that can stroke the check forcing you to wait til supply increases enough to move the price low enough for you. MSRP = Manufacturers SUGGESTED retail price.
It was auctioned off for that much because the money went to charity as a tax write off, surely you don't think it was anything other than that???
The only thing you get paying an ADM at a dealer is laughed at by people with brains.
Surely you don't think tax write-off = free money, at best it's a expense reduction of 40%. Regardless, the buyer paid more than MSRP as will nearly all those that get GT500's in the first year.
All people have brains, some will be laughing with GT500's knowing who laughs last laughs best.
Expect stiff adms for the first couple years. That’s a fact Jack.
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I think at 90k the gt500 will be alot like the Z06. There will be plenty on the lot and ADMs will fall off quickly. We are no longer talking about 34k termi, or 2007 gt500 which was a decent value for the price. Beyond 40-60k possible buyers fall off alot.
The new supra went for 2M right after that 1.1M gt500.
Those s/n 1 cars' auction prices have zero to do with reality. It's advertising and charity and some d1ckswinging thrown in.
Agreed. But have you seen the new BMW Supra, I'm not feeling it...
I also wonder how long the stiff ADM's will be in place since supercharged 700HP recipe is getting generic these days too, HC, Z06, ZL1, and now GT500. The DCT is novel, but the ZL1 10spd is pretty nice and decently comparable plus the slowing auto market. I'd wager it won't last as long as ADM on GT350, maybe a year give or take. If your boycotting it won't be for toooo long.
Considering how 'slow' the 350R was in a straight line id say specs dont mean squat when it comes to the halo Fords. The rich old timers love them no matter what and will always pay up. The Z1le is an absolute shit kicker and I dont think even the first batch sold at an ADM
Arguing over ADM is retarded. ADM is the actual price of the car in America, because your dealing with a private dealership/entity. What you pay, is 100% between you, and the place that is selling what you want.
Home Depot/lowes/Walmart/Amazon all stock the same shit. where you get it from, at what price, is on you. Some stores will have them in stock, others wont, ie availability
what cars appeal to me>what cars can i afford>what cars do i need>what cars have the specs i want
nowhere in there is an MSRP, thats between ford and the dealer.
msrp 70k +20k ADM =90k
MSRP 90k + 0 ADM
Its not the actual price of the car as adm varies... Plenty of people get cars at msrp, even the shelbys
"Nowhere in there is an MSRP, that's between ford and the dealer."
Um, MSRP= Manufacturers Suggested RETAIL (means us the consumer) Price...
It's what the Manufacturer (Ford) suggests that dealers sell Ford's product at for a fair deal and profit for both the consumer and buyer.
Anything above that is pure greed.
I personally agree that anything above MSRP is solely to line a dealers pockets with consumers cash. But I think the main point that potential buyers forget, is that if they don't like or support paying an ADM that the "greedy" dealers are asking, then move on to another dealer or don't buy a new Ford.
Some people "have" to have the car now and be one of the first buyers of new technology. When that happens to a limited production car, dealers will take advantage of these folks by jacking the price up. Right or wrong, ethical or unethical, it's ultimately up to the consumer to control..Stop paying ADM's and dealers sooner or later will be forced to come down to earth. Keep paying ADM's and it supports the dealers philosophy of charging premium to people who "must have it now" mentality.
I would never pay an ADM and I agree with your thinking, the problem is that other people still do and this get around to all the dealers...so then nobody wants to sell at MSRP. I live in the Tampa Bay area and it's still even hard to find a GT350 without and ADM here and none of the dealers within 100 miles of me seem to want to commit to a MSRP deal, even places I've bought SVT from before at MSRP....it's a shame.
if its up to the dealership and not FORD on the price, then its the actual price.
I buy things from alibaba and resell. i can take a look at the market for a "suggested" price, this does NOT mean I must sell it for that. If I advertise a price and a buyer takes the deal, then the price is whatever he and I agreed to.
Stop bickering over your Utopian socialist dreams