This doesn't look good.

[Outlaw99]

This is the 1st I've heard anything about the 3.0

Ford's EcoBoost V-6 Engine Finds Itself At The Center Of A Lawsuit - Here's Why - SlashGear

Ford's EcoBoost engines turn up in all sorts of vehicles, but there are doubts about their reliability, stoked by a recent lawsuit. Here's why it was filed.

www.slashgear.com

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[tones_RS3]

Wow.
Yeah, not good at all.
I would be very pissed off as well if I had one of those affected. Two people are filing a class action lawsuit. I don't see them winning five million dollars though.

This is what happens when you rush your product out ASAP without adequate testing/researching and using inferior/cheaper products from third parties to try to turn a bigger profit. (Maybe I'm wrong with this "accusation", but we shall see.)

 

[Weather Man]

This is the 1st I've heard anything about the 3.0

Ford's EcoBoost V-6 Engine Finds Itself At The Center Of A Lawsuit - Here's Why - SlashGear

Ford's EcoBoost engines turn up in all sorts of vehicles, but there are doubts about their reliability, stoked by a recent lawsuit. Here's why it was filed.

www.slashgear.com

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Isn't this a known supplier issue that Ford was working on remediation?

 

[Lambeau]

Wow.
Yeah, not good at all.
I would be very pissed off as well if I had one of those affected. Two people are filing a class action lawsuit. I don't see them winning five million dollars though.

This is what happens when you rush your product out ASAP without adequate testing/researching and using inferior/cheaper products from third parties to try to turn a bigger profit. (Maybe I'm wrong with this "accusation", but we shall see.)

Tony, there’s literally thousands of direct/contributing/root cause(s), that could have created the event.

Like:
- uncalibrated hardness tester.
- miscalibrated hardness tester.
- grinding machine software update error.
- inspection documentation error.
- drawing spec error.
- test results recording error.
- procurement spec error.
- raw material mislabeling.
- on, and on, and on…

…just to name a couple.

There’s probably an infinite number of these direct/contributing/root cause(s).

Manufacturers work hard to build robust processes for their products, but even then, Murphy rears his ugly head.

Undoubtedly budget does play a significant role, like it or not.
A game of mitigation.

 

[tones_RS3]

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Tony, there’s literally thousands of direct/contributing/root cause(s), that could have created the event.

Like:
- uncalibrated hardness tester.
- miscalibrated hardness tester.
- grinding machine software update error.
- inspection documentation error.
- drawing spec error.
- test results recording error.
- procurement spec error.
- raw material mislabeling.
- on, and on, and on…

…just to name a couple.

There’s probably an infinite number of these direct/contributing/root cause(s).

Oh, I FULLY agree.

That's why testing and more testing and more testing and research needs to be done before releasing a product into consumer hands.
Like you posted, so many variables, as we are just speculators and speculating.
Could be human error, could be machine/computer error.

We shall see,...

 

[PhoenixM3]

I wouldn't say I swore off Ford's TT V6s, but I had a bad experience with my wife's Fusion Sport. It was modified, so I can't blame the engine, but I modify all my cars and this is the only one that suffered from a valve failure.

 

[Vinnie_B]

This is old news on the 3.0 TT. Ford already corrected the issue in the 2025's. I would have never bought one.

 

[Tob]

"Only models produced in 2021 and 2022 are affected — cars manufactured outside of this window are not equipped with the defective valves."

Wife has a '23 Aviator with the 3.0L V6 and my Braptor is a '24. Meh.

 

[08mojo]

"Only models produced in 2021 and 2022 are affected — cars manufactured outside of this window are not equipped with the defective valves."

Wife has a '23 Aviator with the 3.0L V6 and my Braptor is a '24. Meh.

I'm glad someone read the whole article:

The models affected include the Ford Bronco, Edge, Explorer and F-150, plus the Lincoln Navigator and Aviator. Only models produced in 2021 and 2022 are affected — cars manufactured outside of this window are not equipped with the defective valves.

I'll continue to enjoy my Ranger Raptor without worry. Love the truck, it's a great daily. I don't plan to mod the truck in any way. Once I get near the end of the factory warranty, I'll decide if I want to purchase the Ford extended warranty or not.

 

[SID297]

Yeah, this was mostly an issue on the early 2.7L Broncos as far as I remember.

 

[robvas]

Nobody can build an engine anymore. wtf

 

[03cobra#694]

Nobody can build an engine anymore. wtf

The complexity is to much? Cost cutting?

 

[robvas]

The complexity is to much? Cost cutting?

Good question. Probably lots of causes.

Outsourcing a lot of engineering. A lot of the older guys have retired. Quality control is low. New guys have book knowledge and no real world experience. Plus cost cutting like you said.

Random shit like plastic parts and rubber oil pump belts. Complexity of stuff like AFM. Water-thin oils.

Toyota has those Tundra V6's that die. GM 6.2's are destroying themselves. Ecoboom. Those little Korean turbo engines are all junk.

These guys make millions of engines. They've been doing it for a hundred years. The designs should have all the bugs worked out. Production should be spot-on.

 

[13COBRA]

This is the 1st I've heard anything about the 3.0

Ford's EcoBoost V-6 Engine Finds Itself At The Center Of A Lawsuit - Here's Why - SlashGear

Ford's EcoBoost engines turn up in all sorts of vehicles, but there are doubts about their reliability, stoked by a recent lawsuit. Here's why it was filed.

www.slashgear.com

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Yours is unaffected.

 

[wizbangdoodle]

Is there a website to check Vins of affected units?

Politicians are not to be trusted.

 

[DSG2003Mach1]

Is there a website to check Vins of affected units?

Politicians are not to be trusted.

looks like it was an actual recall

https://www.nhtsa.gov/recalls

great google turns up articles listing these production dates (for the vehicle itself):

• Bronco and F-150: May 1, 2021 through October 30, 2021
• Edge and Nautilus: May 10, 2021 through October 29, 2021
• Explorer and Aviator: June 7, 2021 through October 31, 2021

 

[wizbangdoodle]

Thanks

At least it's not on that list. Just that the rear shocks might fall off and the windshield might fall out, nothing serious.

Politicians are not to be trusted.

 

[Fastback]

The complexity is to much? Cost cutting?

Open deck engine blocks, plastic oil pans, wet oil pump belts, high compression, and usually boosted too.

The open block design gave less surface area to clamp down for the head gasket. They will sip coolant before it completely goes. Leaky plastic components, oil and rubber belts seem to be bad idea. Most all new engines have been made to fail. No longer will a car make it to a 3rd owner. They want you to consume another, take out another loan, play the consumer roll, and wee will force feed you shit components, with a sub-par parts supply. And I'm sure that the gov. Standards have a huge part in all this too.