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Old 05-14-2010, 07:45 AM   #1 (permalink)
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wheel hop = gone!

Dreaded wheel hop has been finally terminated! After the car being down for 3 weeks to install the Full Tilt Boogie bushing kit I finally got everything back together yesterday. The car feels much more planted now and tighter. You definitely can feel the road more and I can hear the drivetrain more now, but to overcome the wheel hop has been incredible.

This is one install though I would never want to do again ever. My hands and body are so beat up that I am going to need a couple of weeks to heal.
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Old 05-14-2010, 07:49 AM   #2 (permalink)
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haha i know how you feel. i just finished my install 2 days ago!
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Old 05-14-2010, 09:53 AM   #3 (permalink)
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the install is that bad eh...

not the first time i have heard that..

think its worth it, for sure?
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Old 05-14-2010, 10:02 AM   #4 (permalink)
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yea the install takes some serious time but it well worth it

glad it got rid of it

i finshed mine a couple weeks ago & also did the kenny brown hard launch bar & fore irs diff cover & modine diff cooler also cant wait to drive it it will be a few months now cause i have to "de-flooding" the cobra & finish my house before i can work on it since it was @ my house when it got flooded

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Old 05-14-2010, 10:10 AM   #5 (permalink)
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so silverboost on your vert do you have any other mods such as subframe connectors or coupe springs?

i do not think it healed my wheelhop completely. i am not very sure yet however. overall i havent gotten hop where i may have before, but i did do a couple of standing clutch drops and i i could still feel the wind up. and that is even on drag radials. i have more testing to do however - i want to put some street tires on there, and that will be the real test.


lol yeah my install took me six weeks (and a few years off my life lol) - but totally worth it! i love driving it now, even more than i did before. and i sure loved driving it before!
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So how long should this install take for a person thats very familar with these cars and have done suspension mods to these before? It's not me of course. I would like to get rid of wheelhop.
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I've heard nothing but good things about that mod. Enjoy no wheel hop!!
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Old 05-14-2010, 02:23 PM   #8 (permalink)
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So how long should this install take for a person thats very familar with these cars and have done suspension mods to these before? It's not me of course. I would like to get rid of wheelhop.
the pro shops that i got quotes from were about 9-10 hours labor

it is really not very difficult if you do it yourself, esp if you enjoy working on your car, mostly just time consuming. go for it and good luck!
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I have full length subframe connectors and H&R race springs with Nitto Nt555rII's that are bald as hell.

The worse part about the install is getting the old bushings out and then getting the new bushings shimmed properly. My biggest obstacle was that I had zero help. I got the rear end with 2 jacks by myself and put it back into the car with the 2 jacks by myself.
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Old 05-14-2010, 02:32 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I have full length subframe connectors and H&R race springs with Nitto Nt555rII's that are bald as hell.
see bruce is right on the money when he says verts may need some "additional help"
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Just what I wanted to hear! Not I need to get started on this mod!!
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the pro shops that i got quotes from were about 9-10 hours labor

it is really not very difficult if you do it yourself, esp if you enjoy working on your car, mostly just time consuming. go for it and good luck!
Cool, SFC's are first. Do most people take the whole rearend out? If so I might as well get some H&R race springs and MM caster camber plates right away.
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Cool, SFC's are first. Do most people take the whole rearend out? If so I might as well get some H&R race springs and MM caster camber plates right away.
no other way to do it, really. You could do the bushings in the control arms, while the cradle is still in the car, but obviously the cradle mounts could not be changed, and they are a key piece in the puzzle. They are also the worst ones to actually remove.
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no other way to do it, really. You could do the bushings in the control arms, while the cradle is still in the car, but obviously the cradle mounts could not be changed, and they are a key piece in the puzzle. They are also the worst ones to actually remove.
K, that would be the time to completely re-do the suspension. Maybe next summer!
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So my IRS is not in a car right now so this would be the most opportune time to install bushings, yes? Im thinking about keeping the thing out of my car incase i sell my car this summer and install it in the next car...hopefully a mach. If i dont find another car it will go in at the end of summer before mustang week.
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Dreaded wheel hop has been finally terminated! After the car being down for 3 weeks to install the Full Tilt Boogie bushing kit I finally got everything back together yesterday. The car feels much more planted now and tighter. You definitely can feel the road more and I can hear the drivetrain more now, but to overcome the wheel hop has been incredible.

This is one install though I would never want to do again ever. My hands and body are so beat up that I am going to need a couple of weeks to heal.
I just love it when our customers explain exactly what I tell them our kit will do for their cars.

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Man i hear it's a pain to install but it's worth it if I had the time and money I would doit but for now it goes on my wish list mod
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I just love it when our customers explain exactly what I tell them our kit will do for their cars.

Although you never quite explain what your hands and back will feel like after No, I kid cuz I really want to do this mod, cuz even stock I can hop the wheels pretty easily. My problem is I dont have the mechanical skills nor a place to do the swap. Someone know a good mechanic in SE Louisiana? Someone who has done such a swap before?
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It is the not the first thing most owners do.
But is it the single biggest improvement you will see. By locating the rear drive assembly properly under the car, you will have handling, braking, and drag starts that are as close to designed optimum as you are going to get.

But it is a lot of work to do. I let a friend bring his Cobra over to my house to do his install. And using my car hoist, transmission jack to lower the rear end, my air tools to make the work easier, and a couple of twelve packs of my favorite brew, it still took all weekend. And I even insisted that that I pressure wash the whole thing before staring work. I hate getting my hands dirty
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It is the not the first thing most owners do.
But is it the single biggest improvement you will see. By locating the rear drive assembly properly under the car, you will have handling, braking, and drag starts that are as close to designed optimum as you are going to get.

But it is a lot of work to do. I let a friend bring his Cobra over to my house to do his install. And using my car hoist, transmission jack to lower the rear end, my air tools to make the work easier, and a couple of twelve packs of my favorite brew, it still took all weekend. And I even insisted that that I pressure wash the whole thing before staring work. I hate getting my hands dirty
Mine took even longer because I was alone, car on jack stands, with hand tools and I was dicking around with improvised half ass removal tools. I finally borrowed some MM tools from a friend and then it wasn't too bad.
I eventually got a friend to help stuff it back in, which was needed with just two cheap little jacks.
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I have full length subframe connectors and H&R race springs with Nitto Nt555rII's that are bald as hell.

The worse part about the install is getting the old bushings out and then getting the new bushings shimmed properly. My biggest obstacle was that I had zero help. I got the rear end with 2 jacks by myself and put it back into the car with the 2 jacks by myself.
thats the same tires & springs i have too
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bruces kit is awesome...

i had it on my last cobra... i loved it. and honestly it is the one thing i really miss about my new car!
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I have the maximum motorsports stuff now and it worked really well. I don't have the delrin stuff though. I am going to buy the Full Tilt stuff for sure.

The biggest pain was getting the old bushings out. The rest of the install was pretty easy in My opinion. I built a giant dolley and lowered the IRS down on it as one unit and rolled it out. The only pain I faced was getting the old bushings out. That by far took the most time.
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Although you never quite explain what your hands and back will feel like after No, I kid cuz I really want to do this mod, cuz even stock I can hop the wheels pretty easily. My problem is I dont have the mechanical skills nor a place to do the swap. Someone know a good mechanic in SE Louisiana? Someone who has done such a swap before?
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