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SVTPerformance's Chain of Restaurants
Road Kill Drive-Thru
Just took down a 2012 Boss 302...
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<blockquote data-quote="SlowSVT" data-source="post: 10602051" data-attributes="member: 20202"><p>I never suggested whether one car is a "winner" over the other. With the right mods and enough money even a 73 Vega will lap both cars. </p><p></p><p>I think if you understood what I was getting at you would realize I am agreeing with your statement above. Go back and review what I stated regarding the level of refinement possible in the chassis. As the factory gets better and better with the chassis set-up it will be harder and harder to find measurable improvement like has happened with sport bikes. The Terminator leaves much to be improved which makes it easier to "catch-up". </p><p></p><p>Regarding the advantages of an IRS over a live axle. Not to start another IRS vs. straight axle debate but a live axle will always be behind the 8 ball over an IRS. It has massive amounts of unsprung mass over an IRS, lacks the ability to be de-cambered or toe'd, isn't fully adjustable and the geometry cannot be dynamically changed as the wheel move in it's travel (it's more or less fixed). That is not my "opinion", those are hard cold facts. An IRS in the Boss would just be icing on the cake :rockon:</p><p></p><p>As stated, Ford has a built a winner of a car with the Boss and should be commended on the results. Some people tend to take personal offense with the suggestion that even if a car is great doesn't mean a "lesser car" can't become a "greater car" (that 73 Vega is in the rear view mirror and is closing :uh oh<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />. I think that is something everyone understands.</p><p></p><p>Meanwhile the Terminator stays in the garage while the chassis development continues and will look foreword to encountering a Boss 302 (even a modded one!) <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />oke:</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SlowSVT, post: 10602051, member: 20202"] I never suggested whether one car is a "winner" over the other. With the right mods and enough money even a 73 Vega will lap both cars. I think if you understood what I was getting at you would realize I am agreeing with your statement above. Go back and review what I stated regarding the level of refinement possible in the chassis. As the factory gets better and better with the chassis set-up it will be harder and harder to find measurable improvement like has happened with sport bikes. The Terminator leaves much to be improved which makes it easier to "catch-up". Regarding the advantages of an IRS over a live axle. Not to start another IRS vs. straight axle debate but a live axle will always be behind the 8 ball over an IRS. It has massive amounts of unsprung mass over an IRS, lacks the ability to be de-cambered or toe'd, isn't fully adjustable and the geometry cannot be dynamically changed as the wheel move in it's travel (it's more or less fixed). That is not my "opinion", those are hard cold facts. An IRS in the Boss would just be icing on the cake :rockon: As stated, Ford has a built a winner of a car with the Boss and should be commended on the results. Some people tend to take personal offense with the suggestion that even if a car is great doesn't mean a "lesser car" can't become a "greater car" (that 73 Vega is in the rear view mirror and is closing :uh oh:). I think that is something everyone understands. Meanwhile the Terminator stays in the garage while the chassis development continues and will look foreword to encountering a Boss 302 (even a modded one!) :poke: [/QUOTE]
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