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<blockquote data-quote="suaveflooder" data-source="post: 12216510" data-attributes="member: 43389"><p>Is this one of those, "I know what you are but what am I" posts? What part would you like me to cover, sir? You're going to accuse me of being uneducated when it is YOU that didn't know until to night that Jesus was a real person? </p><p></p><p>What about the city of Nineveh? Sodom and Gomorrah? Troy? Sunjata? Gilgamesh? The flood? Do you know who half of these stories belong to? Are they real, or fake? Is there evidence to back them up? Are they truly epics? What is an epic? What makes up oral tradition? Is it literature? What is fact in oral tradition? What is fact in the Bible? What should be taken as oral tradition in the Bible vs what should be taken as literal? Have you personally compared the oldest version of the Bible with the current ones? Why were the books picked to be in the Bible vs the others? There are technically something like 22 gospels written about Jesus, why were only 4 used?</p><p></p><p>Do you have answers to any of this, good "educated" sir? </p><p></p><p>I can tell you this: I read about evolution, not because I believe in it, but I feel I should have an answer when questioned as to why it is false. It answers some questions, but not all. I read about history, not because I believe every book I read on it, but because having a good/unbiased grasp on what happened in our pasts so that we can be accurate and educated when talking about our past (as in human past) is important. What was the drive behind the expansion west? What was the drive behind trade? Mapping? Converting? I read about other religions so that I can know all there is to know about my God and about theirs.</p><p></p><p>You question my belief and call it nonsense, but yet you haven't educated yourself enough to know that Jesus was in fact a real person and the events in the Bible are very much backed up by documents from other cultures. This INCLUDES the life and death of Christ. Figure out what style literature you are reading in the Bible and read it like it's supposed to be read (sadly, I have a funny feeling you have NO idea what I'm talking about here).</p><p></p><p>I'm 30. Honestly, not that old all things considered, but I read A LOT! I also question a lot. I just recently went back to school in order to pursue an MD. Crazy, I know. That puts me as being a DR (surgeon, I hope) in 10-12 years. I don't think evolution happened without the guidance of God. I do, however believe in common decent as being possible. No young world, I fully believe the world is old as there are plenty of scientific facts to support this and I don't feel the need to question them. I educate myself in ANY possible way I can. You accuse me of being close minded, but am I really?</p><p></p><p>You and I do agree on one thing -- religion. It's junk. True Christianity is far from a religion. It's a relationship. THAT is the difference between it and all other "religions." It is about a God that loves us and desires to have a RELATIONSHIP with his creation. It's a simple choice....not need for works in it's purest form (although works should be evidence of true Christianity as pointed out in James). Think about a father son/daughter relationship and use that to help you understand true Christianity. </p><p></p><p>Educate yourself. From what I see, you have a lot to learn. It's not a bad thing, just a challenge. You might not agree with any of it, but you will be educated in your opinion and that's always a good start.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="suaveflooder, post: 12216510, member: 43389"] Is this one of those, "I know what you are but what am I" posts? What part would you like me to cover, sir? You're going to accuse me of being uneducated when it is YOU that didn't know until to night that Jesus was a real person? What about the city of Nineveh? Sodom and Gomorrah? Troy? Sunjata? Gilgamesh? The flood? Do you know who half of these stories belong to? Are they real, or fake? Is there evidence to back them up? Are they truly epics? What is an epic? What makes up oral tradition? Is it literature? What is fact in oral tradition? What is fact in the Bible? What should be taken as oral tradition in the Bible vs what should be taken as literal? Have you personally compared the oldest version of the Bible with the current ones? Why were the books picked to be in the Bible vs the others? There are technically something like 22 gospels written about Jesus, why were only 4 used? Do you have answers to any of this, good "educated" sir? I can tell you this: I read about evolution, not because I believe in it, but I feel I should have an answer when questioned as to why it is false. It answers some questions, but not all. I read about history, not because I believe every book I read on it, but because having a good/unbiased grasp on what happened in our pasts so that we can be accurate and educated when talking about our past (as in human past) is important. What was the drive behind the expansion west? What was the drive behind trade? Mapping? Converting? I read about other religions so that I can know all there is to know about my God and about theirs. You question my belief and call it nonsense, but yet you haven't educated yourself enough to know that Jesus was in fact a real person and the events in the Bible are very much backed up by documents from other cultures. This INCLUDES the life and death of Christ. Figure out what style literature you are reading in the Bible and read it like it's supposed to be read (sadly, I have a funny feeling you have NO idea what I'm talking about here). I'm 30. Honestly, not that old all things considered, but I read A LOT! I also question a lot. I just recently went back to school in order to pursue an MD. Crazy, I know. That puts me as being a DR (surgeon, I hope) in 10-12 years. I don't think evolution happened without the guidance of God. I do, however believe in common decent as being possible. No young world, I fully believe the world is old as there are plenty of scientific facts to support this and I don't feel the need to question them. I educate myself in ANY possible way I can. You accuse me of being close minded, but am I really? You and I do agree on one thing -- religion. It's junk. True Christianity is far from a religion. It's a relationship. THAT is the difference between it and all other "religions." It is about a God that loves us and desires to have a RELATIONSHIP with his creation. It's a simple choice....not need for works in it's purest form (although works should be evidence of true Christianity as pointed out in James). Think about a father son/daughter relationship and use that to help you understand true Christianity. Educate yourself. From what I see, you have a lot to learn. It's not a bad thing, just a challenge. You might not agree with any of it, but you will be educated in your opinion and that's always a good start. [/QUOTE]
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