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<blockquote data-quote="Pete's 03" data-source="post: 8033761" data-attributes="member: 40463"><p>First of all, I'm not a moron. I can however guarantee that I have installed more springs, and cut more springs than almost everyone on this site. I managed an automotive accessory shop for 8 years and also installed everything that we sold. In that time I put in probably 300 sets of springs and cut at least 100 sets on every type of car out there. This does by no means make me an expert on springs, but I can be pretty sure that I know a lot more than the average person. I appreciate you informing the people on this site who do not know the difference between progressive rate and linear rate springs, but unfortunitley for you, this moron does know the difference. I do not assume that just because I decided to buy aftermarket springs for my car, and some people chose to cut them that mine are automatically better. The reason most all aftermarket lowering springs are progressive rate is so they can maintian a similar to stock overall spring length, while still offering a lower ride hiehgt of say 2". Many cars, when cutting enough spring off to obtain a 2" lower ride height will result in a spring that is significantly shorter than the stock length, resulting in a situation where the spring will actually be loose on the spring perch when the suspension is fully extended. I can't say for sure that it is a problem on the 03 Cobra setup, but I have seen it many times on other vehicles. With the progressive rate spring, the "soft side" is completely compressed before all the weight is put on the spring, leaving just the "stiff side" to hold the weight of the car. At this point you basically have a linear rate spring holding the weight of the car. Now I'm not sure about you but I certainly wouldn't want a spring to pop off its mounting perch if I fully extended the suspension for whatever reason. The other reason that I prefer buying springs rather than cutting them is to get a stiffer spring rate. Like you said, there are some aftermarket springs that have a similar rate to that of the stock ones, but I have always lowered my cars as far as I can and still get around on the crappy roads around here. My experience is that cut prings are typically too soft for how low I want my car. This is personal preference, and again, just my opinion. I have ridden in many cars with the soft stock springs that are cut and even the smallest bump or heavy load in the trunk/multiple passengers causes the car to either hit or completely ride on the bump stops. Again, not what I want. Now if someone were to take two identical cars, install 2" lowering springs on one and cut the springs on the other, I would go out on a limb and say that the car with the aftermarket springs will handle better. It would probably be hard for the average person to notice just driving around town, but there will be a difference, especially if the cars were driven hard. Again, the 03 Cobra probably would have a less noticeable difference than most other cars, but thats not really my point. </p><p></p><p>These are the reasons that I don't like cut springs, not because I like having aftermarkets added to my mod list so people think I have "the best". I could care less about that. My opinion still stands that cutting springs is the ghetto way of lowering, but if it gets you want you want then that's fine, more power to you, but I certainly wouldn't call anyone a moron for simply explaining why they decided to cut rather than buy.</p><p>:beer:</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pete's 03, post: 8033761, member: 40463"] First of all, I'm not a moron. I can however guarantee that I have installed more springs, and cut more springs than almost everyone on this site. I managed an automotive accessory shop for 8 years and also installed everything that we sold. In that time I put in probably 300 sets of springs and cut at least 100 sets on every type of car out there. This does by no means make me an expert on springs, but I can be pretty sure that I know a lot more than the average person. I appreciate you informing the people on this site who do not know the difference between progressive rate and linear rate springs, but unfortunitley for you, this moron does know the difference. I do not assume that just because I decided to buy aftermarket springs for my car, and some people chose to cut them that mine are automatically better. The reason most all aftermarket lowering springs are progressive rate is so they can maintian a similar to stock overall spring length, while still offering a lower ride hiehgt of say 2". Many cars, when cutting enough spring off to obtain a 2" lower ride height will result in a spring that is significantly shorter than the stock length, resulting in a situation where the spring will actually be loose on the spring perch when the suspension is fully extended. I can't say for sure that it is a problem on the 03 Cobra setup, but I have seen it many times on other vehicles. With the progressive rate spring, the "soft side" is completely compressed before all the weight is put on the spring, leaving just the "stiff side" to hold the weight of the car. At this point you basically have a linear rate spring holding the weight of the car. Now I'm not sure about you but I certainly wouldn't want a spring to pop off its mounting perch if I fully extended the suspension for whatever reason. The other reason that I prefer buying springs rather than cutting them is to get a stiffer spring rate. Like you said, there are some aftermarket springs that have a similar rate to that of the stock ones, but I have always lowered my cars as far as I can and still get around on the crappy roads around here. My experience is that cut prings are typically too soft for how low I want my car. This is personal preference, and again, just my opinion. I have ridden in many cars with the soft stock springs that are cut and even the smallest bump or heavy load in the trunk/multiple passengers causes the car to either hit or completely ride on the bump stops. Again, not what I want. Now if someone were to take two identical cars, install 2" lowering springs on one and cut the springs on the other, I would go out on a limb and say that the car with the aftermarket springs will handle better. It would probably be hard for the average person to notice just driving around town, but there will be a difference, especially if the cars were driven hard. Again, the 03 Cobra probably would have a less noticeable difference than most other cars, but thats not really my point. These are the reasons that I don't like cut springs, not because I like having aftermarkets added to my mod list so people think I have "the best". I could care less about that. My opinion still stands that cutting springs is the ghetto way of lowering, but if it gets you want you want then that's fine, more power to you, but I certainly wouldn't call anyone a moron for simply explaining why they decided to cut rather than buy. :beer: [/QUOTE]
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