I like the seats in my 86 GN, I do believe the t-types had different interior.
Supras???
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Yes, the T-types were offered in blue and red as well. The T-type interior colors resembled more of what the regular regal interiors would have looked like during that time, but all the T-type is, is the Turbo LC2 without the Grand National styling package/option.
LOL...thats funny. No facts in this post, just personal opinions. The 03 Cobra is heavier than the Supra. For the last 2 yrs the Supra has dominated the Drag radial street class. Launching is all about the driver. There are KB Cobras here with 640+ hp that have major problems hooking up . Supras come in auto just like the GN, they launch pretty well. I know several 6 spd Supras that can launch the car well also.
The movie thing kills me. In the first movie the Supra was only shown about 10 minutes total. It wasnt the only car in the movie. Why hasnt the RX7, the eclipse and other cars held there value as well.? The movie might have caused a bit of hype for awhile but Supra prices are relatively the same.
In all fairness if you want a Buick LC2 powered car that was a decent handler as well, the 89 Turbo Trans-Am would be that car: 0-60 4.7 seconds, recorded quarter mile speed of 13.4 @ 106mph.
Actually though, going down to the Buick GS Nationals since 1993 I'v seen stock Turbo T/A's dip into the high 12's. That was the car that got GM all shitty because it had actually tested better in just about every area, than the 1990 ZR-1 did, and of course we all know about that unwritten rule that GM has that no other production General Motors vehicle shall surpass the performance that of the almighty Corvette. :rollseyes
What really added insult to injury, as far as the Grand National went when it came to putting down the Corvettes of the late 80's, was that ATR had a handling package for 1000 dollars they offered for the Grand National that garunteed the car would handle as well as a C4 Corvette.
Actually though, going down to the Buick GS Nationals since 1993 I'v seen stock Turbo T/A's dip into the high 12's. That was the car that got GM all shitty because it had actually tested better in just about every area, than the 1990 ZR-1 did, and of course we all know about that unwritten rule that GM has that no other production General Motors vehicle shall surpass the performance that of the almighty Corvette. :rollseyes
What really added insult to injury, as far as the Grand National went when it came to putting down the Corvettes of the late 80's, was that ATR had a handling package for 1000 dollars they offered for the Grand National that garunteed the car would handle as well as a C4 Corvette.
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we all seem to be forgetting about somthing..... the facts and figures you all are spitting out are for a turbo supra! 49 of 50 that i see on the road are non-turbo and the ones that are turbo are usually driven by the people who can afford their outrageously high pricetag -old men who dont care about racing them. if they are this expensive for such an old model i might as well just go out and get a used viper and smoke some supra ass. price has to be a consideration in this arguement..... i mean ferraris are sweet cars too, but they arent the best performance/dollar car around.
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i have to say that i talked to a guy at the track who had a nice red supra twin turbo and i thought it was a damn nice car and he was only about mid 20s. if people are willing to look around im sure you could get a supra for about 25k. secondly many supras can hook up as he was running low 13s with only an exhaust on a very hot night. so how bout we not diss on cars we have never driven and just accept them for being fast
hmmm my views of supras are clouded by a friend who just blew up his 3rd supra.. everything from motors to turbos failing...:shrug:
An automatic? :xpl:
--T.J.
Like them magazine results eh? I'v seen 95 ZR-1's dip into the high 12's stock with my own eyes, not sure what that 13.6 nonsence is about.
As for the value of your cars, I guess it depends on how much a person is willing to pay for one. I'v seen quite a few going for under 30 grand and I'm talking about the turbo's also. Still though, thats not too bad, but not quite as rich as those over exagerated numbers your trying to push on us.
Who knows how much the Cobra will be worth in 6 years? The same goes for any car. You could have got yourself an all original Hemi Cuda with 5000 miles on it back in 1980 for a few thousand dollars, now they go for well over a quarter mill. :shrug: Who would have guessed?
(BTW if you feel the need to flame me, flame me because I said you were exagerating, not because I was insulting the Supra. Like I said, I acknowledge they're very strong cars, and deffinatly worth the money thats been paid for them.)
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thats a smart man up there:bowdown:
It's cool. The last thing I want to do is make this a Cobra vs. Supra thread. I like the SC Cobras also as some of my friends drive them. They are an awesome car and people are just now starting to really open them up as parts are developed. I posted the articles just for a reference that the Supra was one hell of a car when it came out-and still is one hell of a car. It does everything really well. Your right about the price-it all depends on what people are will to pay. It's called demand and right now there is a lot of demand for Supras. Who knows what will happen in the future.
We've all seen really quick cars from the factory: '03 Cobras-I've seen some hit high 12s stock, LS1 SS Camaros-I've seen them hit high 12s stock too...the list goes on and on. Who's to say a stock Supra wouldn't hit 12s? Who knows, who cares? I've also seen '03 Cobras and LS1 SS's run 14s too, as I'm sure a lot of us have seen big horsepower cars run horrible track times, so a lot of that is driver. It makes me cringe when I go to the track and see a really nice/built car run bad times.
Anyways, back to the regularly scheduled program
Steve K.
We've all seen really quick cars from the factory: '03 Cobras-I've seen some hit high 12s stock, LS1 SS Camaros-I've seen them hit high 12s stock too...the list goes on and on. Who's to say a stock Supra wouldn't hit 12s? Who knows, who cares? I've also seen '03 Cobras and LS1 SS's run 14s too, as I'm sure a lot of us have seen big horsepower cars run horrible track times, so a lot of that is driver. It makes me cringe when I go to the track and see a really nice/built car run bad times.
Anyways, back to the regularly scheduled program
Steve K.
AN 03 MOTOR CAN HANDLE JUST AS MUCH AS A SUPRA MOTOR CAN STOCK. AN 03 CAN ALSO RUN 10"S FOR UNDER 10K CAN A SUPRA NO. DONT EVEN SAY IT CAN IF SO EVERY SUPRA OUT THERE WOULD BE RUNNING 10"S.
PUT A T-78 TUNE IT AND PROPER FUEL ON A COBRA SET TO UNDER 20PSI MAKE 700RWHP AND U HAVE A MUSTANG THAT CAN BEAT SUPRAS FROM A ROLL THAT SIMPLE. OH A COBRA CAN MAKE OVER 500RWHP @ ONLY 10PSI. CAN A SUPRA SAY THAT NO. THE HIGH HP SUPRAS ARE RUNNING ANY WHERE BETWEEN 25PSI TO 35PSI AND MOST WITH NOS. THATS NOT IMPRESSIVE PUT THAT MUCH BOOST ON A 03 COBRA WAIT DOESNT NEED TO RUN THAT MUCH TO BE FAST LOL.
BOTTOM LIINE SUPRAS ARE HIGHWAY CARS 90% OF THEM BUT ANY CAR COBRA, MUSTNANG, F-BODY EVEN CAN MAKE ONE LOOK STUPID IF ITS SET UP LIKE THEY ARE-- GEARS TUNE, TURBO, GOOD TIRES AND A CHIP THATS ALL IT TAKES.
REFER TO THE UNDERGROUND STREET RACING VIDEO OF THE SALEEN VS T-66 SUPRA RACE. WHAT A CLASSIC ITS EVEN BETTER CUZ U HERE THE TYPICAL WE HAVE TO GO FROM A ROLL. WAIT TILL MY TURBO IS SPOOLED UP THEN GO CRAP LOL.
THE SUPRAS ARE SO BAD ASS CARS GETS OLD...
ITS BEEN SAID BUT ITS THE TRUTH WHAT IS THE DIFFERNECE BETWEEN A 500HP SUPRA AND A 800HP. 12.5@ 122 12.2@ 140. UNLESS IT HAS A TH400 3SPD AUTO TRANNY IN IT THEN IT CAN PULL OFF THE LINE TIMES BUT ONLY ABOUT 6 IN THE US HAVE THAT.
PUT A T-78 TUNE IT AND PROPER FUEL ON A COBRA SET TO UNDER 20PSI MAKE 700RWHP AND U HAVE A MUSTANG THAT CAN BEAT SUPRAS FROM A ROLL THAT SIMPLE. OH A COBRA CAN MAKE OVER 500RWHP @ ONLY 10PSI. CAN A SUPRA SAY THAT NO. THE HIGH HP SUPRAS ARE RUNNING ANY WHERE BETWEEN 25PSI TO 35PSI AND MOST WITH NOS. THATS NOT IMPRESSIVE PUT THAT MUCH BOOST ON A 03 COBRA WAIT DOESNT NEED TO RUN THAT MUCH TO BE FAST LOL.
BOTTOM LIINE SUPRAS ARE HIGHWAY CARS 90% OF THEM BUT ANY CAR COBRA, MUSTNANG, F-BODY EVEN CAN MAKE ONE LOOK STUPID IF ITS SET UP LIKE THEY ARE-- GEARS TUNE, TURBO, GOOD TIRES AND A CHIP THATS ALL IT TAKES.
REFER TO THE UNDERGROUND STREET RACING VIDEO OF THE SALEEN VS T-66 SUPRA RACE. WHAT A CLASSIC ITS EVEN BETTER CUZ U HERE THE TYPICAL WE HAVE TO GO FROM A ROLL. WAIT TILL MY TURBO IS SPOOLED UP THEN GO CRAP LOL.
THE SUPRAS ARE SO BAD ASS CARS GETS OLD...
ITS BEEN SAID BUT ITS THE TRUTH WHAT IS THE DIFFERNECE BETWEEN A 500HP SUPRA AND A 800HP. 12.5@ 122 12.2@ 140. UNLESS IT HAS A TH400 3SPD AUTO TRANNY IN IT THEN IT CAN PULL OFF THE LINE TIMES BUT ONLY ABOUT 6 IN THE US HAVE THAT.
TURN YOU CAPS OFF
Price of a typical '03 Cobra-$35,000.00-$40,000.00, plus $10k in mods (I bet it will cost more then this)='s $45,000.00-$50,000.00. You can run 10s in a Supra much cheaper if all you care about is going fast in a straightline.
Do some research before you start posting nonsense. I don't see any '03-'04 Cobra motors handling 900+whp stock? I don't see any of them running 800, or 700 for that matter. There are hundreds of Supras making that kind of power on the stock block. There are also plenty of Supras running 9s and 10s on the Toyota Automatic Transmission after having the tranny strengthened to take all of the power. The Getrags 6 speeds will hold 1000+ horsepower. If there are so many 03 Cobras running 9s and 10s please show me a link to the list? I'd love to see it. Here is a link to some of the quicker supras in the country that drag race their cars. Not every Supra owner drag races.
http://www.supraforums.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=110710
8.25 170 Paul Efantis Bullish Racing/MSP Auto/TH350 BFG Drag Radials!!!! 3315 pounds
8.54@168 Nero Titan Motorsports Now on a glide
8.9@163 on the stock 6 speed
8.89@155 Dana Westover Virtual Works Racing 3600lbs no n20!!!
8.98@154 Dusty Womack MVP/Powerhouseracing Auto
9.0@154 Larry Prebis Sound Performance Auto 9.54 Video Full weight
9.20@146 Albert Diaz Powerglide 3630 pounds!!!!!
9.28@148 Dan Willie Batlground Engineering Auto, No Nitrous !!!!!
9.54@147 Joel Tazman
9.57@150 Ara Arslanian Bullish Racing Videos here 6 speed
9.57@147 Marko D. Sound Performance Toy Auto Daily Driver!!!!
9.68@150 Ryan Woon WOTM 9.74 Video No N20 6 Speed Full weight
9.73@142 Errol Total Performance and Service 3300 pounds TH400
9.81@154 SW Turboimports/Performance Motorsports 9.81 Video 6 Speed/Full Weight Street Car!!!
9.82@147 Flamed Supra Performance Factory Auto
9.83@139 Humberto Aubi Dynamic Turbo Auto
9.84@151 Joakim Menghini Supramannen Racing Full Weight
9.89@147 Saad Saad full weight 6speed Turbo only Intense Motorsports
9.8?@ 144 Vinny Ten Performance Factory
9.90@139 Al Blaha Auto, stock motor, 3530 lbs, BFG Drag Radials.
9.91@144 Jarret H. Powerhouse Racing(Red car) Auto 9.91 video
9.93@140 Kean Wang Boostlogic/Performance Motorsports on Drag Radials!!!
9.93@141 Daniel Donofan Virtual Works Racing 3600lbs, auto, 74mm turbo
9.96@145 Matt Miller MSP 6 Speed/No Nitrous/Full Weight Street car!!!
9.98@137 Toyomoto/Lujan Motorsports NA-T
9.98@118 Ben Blalock Powerhouse Racing(Silver Car) Auto ESPN Video
9.99@146 Byron Stewart Titan Motorsports 9 second run
9.9?@149 SW's Hardtop Turboimports/Performance Motorsports No Nitrous
9.99@137 Warren Rattray
10.00@140 Jason Crooks Boostlogic Auto
10.01@139 Anthony Melber 6 speed/ Motorsports Performance
10.02@147 Rhys Millen UPRD
10.05 @ 139 Val Thakore MSP on Boost Only, ET Streets and Toy Trans/Full Weight!
10.05@133 Greg Baker Racing Technology Company
10.10@131 Billy Cha
10.15@132 Henry Nguyen Auto SGP Racing BFG Drag Radials!!!!
10.15@146 Son Nguyen 6 Speed
10.17@132 Dave Henry Sound performance Auto NA-T
10.18@142 97 Royal Sapphire Pearl 6spd - WOTM
10.19@144 Jamie Farrer
10.19@144 Pete Ibrahim Garage Advance 6 speed
10.1?@137 Mike Carlin Sound performance Auto
10.21@141 Gary White Titan Motorsports
10.22@134 James aka Ktrends
10.2?@134 Jerry Vodden Sound performance Auto
10.28@141 Brad Daley
10.28@139 Angel Robles Garage Advance
10.2?@133 Mark Cooper Sound Performance Auto 10.3 on BFG's
10.2?@139 Gary White 6 Speed no Nitrous
10.32@142 Reidar Elvsveen 6 Speed 3550 pounds
10.39@145 Augie from Tx
10.3@144 Daniel Willie Batlground Engineering 6 Speed Drag Radials
10.40@130 Al Canada South Florida Performance
10.41@139 Guilly Polo on BFG Drag Radials Suprastore
10.41@131 Rickard C. Powerhouse Racing
10.43@140 Tim Iacoli
10.43@133 Mike? Powerhouse Racing
10.44@139 Tripp Tatum
10.44@134 Walter Dumas Dynamic Turbo
10.47@137 Dave Jusko RPS/World Electronics10.47 Video here
10.49@146 Chris Johnson Turboimports/Performance Motorsports
10.5@145 Darren Strunk aka Walser Turboimports/Performance Motorsports
10.52@135 94 Blk T66 6spd - WOTM
10.53@142 Jesus Rivera Garage Advance
10.53@132 Kirk R. MZM International Auto
10.54@134 94 White T66 6spd - WOTM
10.55@134 Gary Grossman Sound Performance Auto
10.58@140 John Firth '97 6spd SP74 E/T Streets, AEM, 29 psi
10.60@136 Jimmy P.
10.63@140 Stacey Barnett
10.66@138 Andrew Schutsky Xotic Motorsports BFG Drag radials, boost only, FULL weight, SP Auto trans
10.68@132 Kristian Maajola
10.68@140 Brett T. 10.68 @140 MPH Brett Todd Horsepower/Torquefreaks, 6 Spd PTE 76MM
10.69@132 Billy Barr
10.70@135 Dave Andino SpeedCraft Engineering Auto
10.71@136 Shalin Patel
10.72@134 Michael Hadley
10.74@133 Tony B. 6 Speed
10.90@128 on stock twins and nitrous!!!!
10.74@132 Richard Welch Autosport Wiring Auto/DR's
10.75@133 Tony Bonilla Performance Motorsports Auto
10.76@129 Roberto M. Auto Sound performance
10.81@135 Al Stanek
10.85@130 Ekool Dynamic Racing Stock Fuel 6 Speed
10.88@138 Alex Wohlwend NorthEast Auto Design
10.88@133 Steve Hodges Sound performance
10.8?@129 BLKMGK?
10.90@131 Robert Keller SP400 auto
10.91@129 Nigel Beale ICE PerformanceNitto DR's
10.92@130 Mark Tozer
10.93@124 Jeremy McMahan
10.95@139 Alfred Rhee 6 Speed
10.97@125 Tim D.
A 700whp Cobra is not going to beat a 700whp Supra from a roll for several reasons-1 being that the Cobra has horrible aerodynamics, 2-being the Cobra is 300-400 lbs heavier then the Supra-again do some research. One of the reasons the Supra rules on the top end is aerodynamics and small frontal area. It slices through the air much easier then the Cobra will up top.
Give me a break-any car can be made fast-hell my old Neon ran 11s too, but it didn't drive like a Supra, didn't ride like a Supra, was louder then hell, didn't brake like a Supra, and didn't handle like a Supra. There is more then going straight. I real car will do everything well. That was the point of posting the magazine articles-to highlight how well the car stopped and handled.
Steve K.
Price of a typical '03 Cobra-$35,000.00-$40,000.00, plus $10k in mods (I bet it will cost more then this)='s $45,000.00-$50,000.00. You can run 10s in a Supra much cheaper if all you care about is going fast in a straightline.
Do some research before you start posting nonsense. I don't see any '03-'04 Cobra motors handling 900+whp stock? I don't see any of them running 800, or 700 for that matter. There are hundreds of Supras making that kind of power on the stock block. There are also plenty of Supras running 9s and 10s on the Toyota Automatic Transmission after having the tranny strengthened to take all of the power. The Getrags 6 speeds will hold 1000+ horsepower. If there are so many 03 Cobras running 9s and 10s please show me a link to the list? I'd love to see it. Here is a link to some of the quicker supras in the country that drag race their cars. Not every Supra owner drag races.
http://www.supraforums.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=110710
8.25 170 Paul Efantis Bullish Racing/MSP Auto/TH350 BFG Drag Radials!!!! 3315 pounds
8.54@168 Nero Titan Motorsports Now on a glide
8.9@163 on the stock 6 speed
8.89@155 Dana Westover Virtual Works Racing 3600lbs no n20!!!
8.98@154 Dusty Womack MVP/Powerhouseracing Auto
9.0@154 Larry Prebis Sound Performance Auto 9.54 Video Full weight
9.20@146 Albert Diaz Powerglide 3630 pounds!!!!!
9.28@148 Dan Willie Batlground Engineering Auto, No Nitrous !!!!!
9.54@147 Joel Tazman
9.57@150 Ara Arslanian Bullish Racing Videos here 6 speed
9.57@147 Marko D. Sound Performance Toy Auto Daily Driver!!!!
9.68@150 Ryan Woon WOTM 9.74 Video No N20 6 Speed Full weight
9.73@142 Errol Total Performance and Service 3300 pounds TH400
9.81@154 SW Turboimports/Performance Motorsports 9.81 Video 6 Speed/Full Weight Street Car!!!
9.82@147 Flamed Supra Performance Factory Auto
9.83@139 Humberto Aubi Dynamic Turbo Auto
9.84@151 Joakim Menghini Supramannen Racing Full Weight
9.89@147 Saad Saad full weight 6speed Turbo only Intense Motorsports
9.8?@ 144 Vinny Ten Performance Factory
9.90@139 Al Blaha Auto, stock motor, 3530 lbs, BFG Drag Radials.
9.91@144 Jarret H. Powerhouse Racing(Red car) Auto 9.91 video
9.93@140 Kean Wang Boostlogic/Performance Motorsports on Drag Radials!!!
9.93@141 Daniel Donofan Virtual Works Racing 3600lbs, auto, 74mm turbo
9.96@145 Matt Miller MSP 6 Speed/No Nitrous/Full Weight Street car!!!
9.98@137 Toyomoto/Lujan Motorsports NA-T
9.98@118 Ben Blalock Powerhouse Racing(Silver Car) Auto ESPN Video
9.99@146 Byron Stewart Titan Motorsports 9 second run
9.9?@149 SW's Hardtop Turboimports/Performance Motorsports No Nitrous
9.99@137 Warren Rattray
10.00@140 Jason Crooks Boostlogic Auto
10.01@139 Anthony Melber 6 speed/ Motorsports Performance
10.02@147 Rhys Millen UPRD
10.05 @ 139 Val Thakore MSP on Boost Only, ET Streets and Toy Trans/Full Weight!
10.05@133 Greg Baker Racing Technology Company
10.10@131 Billy Cha
10.15@132 Henry Nguyen Auto SGP Racing BFG Drag Radials!!!!
10.15@146 Son Nguyen 6 Speed
10.17@132 Dave Henry Sound performance Auto NA-T
10.18@142 97 Royal Sapphire Pearl 6spd - WOTM
10.19@144 Jamie Farrer
10.19@144 Pete Ibrahim Garage Advance 6 speed
10.1?@137 Mike Carlin Sound performance Auto
10.21@141 Gary White Titan Motorsports
10.22@134 James aka Ktrends
10.2?@134 Jerry Vodden Sound performance Auto
10.28@141 Brad Daley
10.28@139 Angel Robles Garage Advance
10.2?@133 Mark Cooper Sound Performance Auto 10.3 on BFG's
10.2?@139 Gary White 6 Speed no Nitrous
10.32@142 Reidar Elvsveen 6 Speed 3550 pounds
10.39@145 Augie from Tx
10.3@144 Daniel Willie Batlground Engineering 6 Speed Drag Radials
10.40@130 Al Canada South Florida Performance
10.41@139 Guilly Polo on BFG Drag Radials Suprastore
10.41@131 Rickard C. Powerhouse Racing
10.43@140 Tim Iacoli
10.43@133 Mike? Powerhouse Racing
10.44@139 Tripp Tatum
10.44@134 Walter Dumas Dynamic Turbo
10.47@137 Dave Jusko RPS/World Electronics10.47 Video here
10.49@146 Chris Johnson Turboimports/Performance Motorsports
10.5@145 Darren Strunk aka Walser Turboimports/Performance Motorsports
10.52@135 94 Blk T66 6spd - WOTM
10.53@142 Jesus Rivera Garage Advance
10.53@132 Kirk R. MZM International Auto
10.54@134 94 White T66 6spd - WOTM
10.55@134 Gary Grossman Sound Performance Auto
10.58@140 John Firth '97 6spd SP74 E/T Streets, AEM, 29 psi
10.60@136 Jimmy P.
10.63@140 Stacey Barnett
10.66@138 Andrew Schutsky Xotic Motorsports BFG Drag radials, boost only, FULL weight, SP Auto trans
10.68@132 Kristian Maajola
10.68@140 Brett T. 10.68 @140 MPH Brett Todd Horsepower/Torquefreaks, 6 Spd PTE 76MM
10.69@132 Billy Barr
10.70@135 Dave Andino SpeedCraft Engineering Auto
10.71@136 Shalin Patel
10.72@134 Michael Hadley
10.74@133 Tony B. 6 Speed
10.90@128 on stock twins and nitrous!!!!
10.74@132 Richard Welch Autosport Wiring Auto/DR's
10.75@133 Tony Bonilla Performance Motorsports Auto
10.76@129 Roberto M. Auto Sound performance
10.81@135 Al Stanek
10.85@130 Ekool Dynamic Racing Stock Fuel 6 Speed
10.88@138 Alex Wohlwend NorthEast Auto Design
10.88@133 Steve Hodges Sound performance
10.8?@129 BLKMGK?
10.90@131 Robert Keller SP400 auto
10.91@129 Nigel Beale ICE PerformanceNitto DR's
10.92@130 Mark Tozer
10.93@124 Jeremy McMahan
10.95@139 Alfred Rhee 6 Speed
10.97@125 Tim D.
A 700whp Cobra is not going to beat a 700whp Supra from a roll for several reasons-1 being that the Cobra has horrible aerodynamics, 2-being the Cobra is 300-400 lbs heavier then the Supra-again do some research. One of the reasons the Supra rules on the top end is aerodynamics and small frontal area. It slices through the air much easier then the Cobra will up top.
Give me a break-any car can be made fast-hell my old Neon ran 11s too, but it didn't drive like a Supra, didn't ride like a Supra, was louder then hell, didn't brake like a Supra, and didn't handle like a Supra. There is more then going straight. I real car will do everything well. That was the point of posting the magazine articles-to highlight how well the car stopped and handled.
Steve K.
COBRA MAN OF UT,
You're an idiot...
You're an idiot...
I also believe that was without the juice.
an 03 with just bolt ons and a Procharger is at 700 hp and give the car some time and therewell be 1000 hp cobras, the mkiv supra has been aroud since 93 right? well, the 03 cobra has only been since 03, it jsut needs time
Your on crack if you thing a 700rwhp supra will own a 700rwhp cobra from a roll. its called tq moron, take that into consideration, along with a Way more useable power band. The kenne bells hit max boost at 2500 rpms meaning hes making what the supra makes at peak at around half the rpms and way more tq at lower rpms anyway. While supras are waiting to spool and cobras do not have that horrible of aerodynamics, gearing will hurt them before that even comes into play. Supras wont gain aerodynamic advantage until 150 to 160mph. You havent even begun to see the potential on these cars. 95% of them have stock heads cams and internals and run half the boost it takes a supra to run at the same level and they have been out for 2 years and on PUMP gas! There is no replacement for displacement and mod for mod boost for boost its not a comparison, in time cobras will have all the options supras have for mods
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