10.8@127mph - 4200lbs race weight

[tt335ci03cobra]

Demon tops out at 168 stock, gt500 runs 10.8@133 (that we know of) stock. Zl1-1le and most chevys could aspire to have better exhaust notes/loudness stock. My point is the factory options are not 100% perfect but it’s obvious to anyone that they have huge value over all when compared to the expensive worldly options when you have to knit pick them on things like tires, exhaust, and general bolt on modifications. Today we get nearly perfect factory pro builds that need bolt ons. Yesteryear we had good general platforms that took well to bolt ons and expensive pro builds. The industry listened is my point. Take your cake and eat it. You have nothing to complain grossly about save blown diffs which dodge will warranty even after drag racing on slicks, no manual in a top tier mustang which ford may even cave on come 2020/21, and arguably the need for an optional dct and more lovely exhaust in the zl1-1le.

I’ll gladly take a 10 second car that can probably go 190 to 200+ and devour twisties for $75k.

I’ll also gladly take a car that to me is the evolutionary ethos of the terminator as in a wide body hellcat redeye manual or the boldly proud 1 dimensional dodge demon for $70-85k.

I’ll gladly take a zl1-1le for $70k

I modify anything I buy and personalize them. All of these cars are great. If you have a problem with American performance offerings today, then piss off.

 

[LostM]

My biggest grin, is coming from knowing whats going to happen in the real world though. from a roll, where at least 50% races happen now, the "stock" demons are going to get romped from stock 500's.

Put the PIPE down my friend. I will bet you $500 right now that from a ROLL race with the Demon running 100 Octane it will walk a GT500. Demons are going to get ROMPED? Let's see the Demon has 760 at the wheels, weighs roughly the same as a GT500 and it's 8-speed tranny is incredible. You really need to drive a Demon to understand.

You also sound like a totally child when you start proclaiming how it's going to get worst once you start modding a GT500. Wait, so only the FORD guy can mod? Go look at the trap speed on a modded demon. 144mph. There's a reason ford is saying BELOW 11 seconds and DODGE can say, BELOW 10 Seconds. So go mod that statement and put your money where your mouth is. A DEMON will WALK a GT500 from a dig AND from a roll. Power is power is power.[/QUOTE]

stock demon vs stock gt500 , both on race gas from a roll? $500 bet? ill take that.

power is power, yea, we get that, and weight is weight, and acceleration is acceleration. like i said, $500, im in.

all the " stock" demons at that rental last week were barely 135-137 mph. so im pretty confident your going to be paying for my gas for a couple weeks :x

 

[PIPO]

Then it’s not stock is it? So what is stock....skinnies and dr’s or 315 all around street tires. You can’t have it both ways

Ok, so it went 190 on Nitto’s, 203 with hellcat tires with wife driving and 209 with the owner.

 

[PIPO]

Except no ones ever done it.




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3 people ran 140mph during the rental and 1 well before that.

 

[LostM]

3 people ran 140mph during the rental and 1 well before that.

but not stock

Demon 1/4 mile time list.

 

[PIPO]

but not stock

Demon 1/4 mile time list.

The time slip I posted is for a bone stock powertrain Demon on Mickey Thompson DRs. I have to check on the other 3 had different tires, but they were stock. No stock Demon has been over 140. All those you posted are modified Demons. I’m talking about 4 demons that went 140 with bone stock powertrains.

 

[LostM]

The time slip I posted is for a bone stock powertrain Demon on Mickey Thompson DRs. I have to check on the other 3 had different tires, but they were stock. No stock Demon has been over 140. All those you posted are modified Demons. I’m talking about 4 demons that went 140 with bone stock powertrains.

so are you in favor of calling a non oem tire but everything else stock, as "stock" to me it is, but isnt, but doesnt matter. swapping a tire to me just makes sense.. however, in this wasteland of the internet, its a huge difference

 

[conceptmachine]

There's a whole lot of difference between a prepped strip and a city street, even with DRs. too many variables. Should be a close race, especially without race gas.

 

[Tob]

What was with the side to side at speed in that clip all about?

 

[tt335ci03cobra]

Demons and hellcats are great cars, but these people who have died on the stock cross can’t have it both ways.

Factory tire is stock? So then switching from a nitto dr to a mickey is a mod.

If switching from a non drag radial to a drag radial or slick is a mod, switching from a less sticky drag radial to a stickier drag radial or a shorter wider radial is a mod

I could get a hellcat to trap 143+ by running a 26x12.50 on a 15. Do I win the Internet for fastest “stock” demon? I could pull out the entire interior and trunk, as well as all the firewall insulation, sound deadening and yank of the front brakes too, just run rear parking brake while I’m at it.

Since the car came on slicks and weight reduction options stock, it’s all stock. Stock stock stock, stock as can be. Hell I could get it running sub 9.50’s at 145 all stock and be the coolest guy on the Internet forums.

 

[PIPO]

so are you in favor of calling a non oem tire but everything else stock, as "stock" to me it is, but isnt, but doesnt matter. swapping a tire to me just makes sense.. however, in this wasteland of the internet, its a huge difference

I really don’t care about swapping tires for a top speed run. Now for 1/4 mile record purposes, bone stock to me is down to the TYPE of tire. Then there’s the safety factor. We have too many cars these days that make crazy power from the factory that shouldn’t be running street tires at a drag strip.

 

[ON D BIT]

Ok, so it went 190 on Nitto’s, 203 with hellcat tires with wife driving and 209 with the owner.

Was that with skinnies up front? People always tell me skinnies are stock on the demon....

 

[Kaneda]

You guys are all over the place.

Stock Demon running @840bhp on stock tires

Vs

Stock 2020 GT500 @750bhp on stock tires

Line up side view mirrors at let’s say 30mph...which car pulls on the other. One of you clowns said the Demon will Get romped. How? Down 100bhp, similar weight. Someone explain this to me. Demon will walk it STOCK all day long.

 

[ON D BIT]

I really don’t care about swapping tires for a top speed run. Now for 1/4 mile record purposes, bone stock to me is down to the TYPE of tire. Then there’s the safety factor. We have too many cars these days that make crazy power from the factory that shouldn’t be running street tires at a drag strip.

Then just say stock with tire. It’s not hard. There is a big difference is time and trap with oem stock and specific tires.

Truth be told there are so many options with this car we will never get a true four seat coupe in street(400+ mile road trip) setup.

Yes it’s nice to drive to the strip rather than trailer. But I’m lazy if I have to carry 4 different wheels swap them out find a place to put those components during the day/night I’m running at track, then swap back to drive home is pain in the ass.
Drive to strip, run, drive home. One thing I like about the z06 with cup 2 is you can do just that.

 

[csc427]

You guys are all over the place.

Stock Demon running @840bhp on stock tires

Vs

Stock 2020 GT500 @750bhp on stock tires

Line up side view mirrors at let’s say 30mph...which car pulls on the other. One of you clowns said the Demon will Get romped. How? Down 100bhp, similar weight. Someone explain this to me. Demon will walk it STOCK all day long.

As much as I hate to, I agree. Lol

 

[Kaneda]

As much as I hate to, I agree. Lol

wait, kaneda is right?!

 

[ON D BIT]

You guys are all over the place.

Stock Demon running @840bhp on stock tires

Vs

Stock 2020 GT500 @750bhp on stock tires

Line up side view mirrors at let’s say 30mph...which car pulls on the other. One of you clowns said the Demon will Get romped. How? Down 100bhp, similar weight. Someone explain this to me. Demon will walk it STOCK all day long.

How did you get hp numbers?
When did you get GT500 weight? It still may be 200 lbs difference. Demon is close to 4300lbs.
Stock with skinnies or 315?

The mustang will shift faster and gearing can make a big impact. We still don’t know how the mustang will run.
2 things I do know. The 720s pulls similar stock 1320 times according to you. 9.9’s at 140. Yet walks the demon on the street. How does that happen?
And the demon won’t come close to 2.42 at VIR!

 

[csc427]

10.8@133 vs 9.65@140 pick your poisen.

1:33 at leguna vs 1:45 at leguna pick your poison

200mph+ top speed vs 168mph pick your poise

Ford vs dodge pick your poisen

Exactly. I love this GT500 and will be getting one. I like it much better than than the demon. But I’m not naive enough to think that it’s quicker in a straight line simply because it’s the one I like better. It could run 30 seconds quicker at leguna and still mean nothing to me. Straight line performance is what I’m interested in. Stock for stock, not close. As the nittos hook way better than the psc2. The GT500 should stand to gain more than the demon with a proper tire. I run the psc2 on my 911 turbo and gt4, even a toyo r888r would be a huge improvement on the street. I hope ford continues to tune this thing for more power and better times. Didn’t they say that bettering the 10.8 was becoming difficult due to traction on the psc2?

 

[csc427]

wait, kaneda is right?!

If I’m agreeing with you, I assume we are both wrong. Lmao.

 

[LostM]

You guys are all over the place.

Stock Demon running @840bhp on stock tires

Vs

Stock 2020 GT500 @750bhp on stock tires

Line up side view mirrors at let’s say 30mph...which car pulls on the other. One of you clowns said the Demon will Get romped. How? Down 100bhp, similar weight. Someone explain this to me. Demon will walk it STOCK all day long.

Thats me that said that, and I agreed to the $500 bet, 45-145mph the gt500 will be in front.
Some people dont understand the #s, and Im confident I do.