Real Talk: Coyote Swap or 4.6 DOHC

Crazed_RedNeck · Nov 23, 2016

Starting on my new car in the next few days, but now im in a dilemma. The car is a 1994 GT 8.50 Cert Cage, Completely gutted race car on stock style suspension. I originally planned on doing a coyote swap this whole time but a few days ago a friend of mine let me know he had a teksid block in great shape as well as a set of 03/04 cobra complete heads with cams. For around the same price I can build a completely forged 4.6 ($3000 including the price of the block and heads) vs a stock F150 coyote (1700) with opg, car cams, intake etc. Both setups will eventually see boost, i know the teksid will be more superior then the coyote sleeves, but what would you guys do, or rather how do you see them out with pros and cons?

KingBlack · Nov 23, 2016

coyote
it uses 4.6 rods so that helps keep the cost down, and the 1st get coyote stuff is starting to come down in price as well

you will spend a bit more for the 5.0 but i think you'd regret not getting it vs the 4.6

Crazed_RedNeck · Nov 23, 2016

I know even though the 4.6 4V has been out since 96, there seems to be a larger supply in the aftermarket for the coyote engine, The only real intake options you have for a non blower 4v 4.6 is a 99/01 Cobra (Mach1), Sullivan, or Fabricated. None of those are cheap or getting cheaper, while there are CJ intakes going on ebay right now for $500-600.

KingBlack · Nov 24, 2016

So that should settle it, coyote

ashleyroachclip · Nov 24, 2016

What year did the coyote come out in the F150 ?

Crazed_RedNeck · Nov 24, 2016

ashleyroachclip said:
What year did the coyote come out in the F150 ?

The one I'm looking at is a 2013

Mach828 · Nov 24, 2016

After being mid build for a 4.6, it gets a lot more expensive than you expect. The coyote is a superior engine, 5.0 swap it.

BlksvtCobra01 · Nov 24, 2016

Coyote swap!

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BJCobra99 · Nov 24, 2016

I feel ya with the engine confusion. I traded my 04 Yamaha R6 for a 99 Cobra with a 02 2v GT engine. (Straight title swap)It runs fine, but I cannot decide between a coyobra or to do a termi swap. Only downside I see for coyote is the stock airbags will not work. Not a big deal with your roll cage car. I will probably keep an eye out and do the coyote swap once I can find a good used engine. Good luck!

black92 · Nov 25, 2016

I'd build a stroked 351W.

KingBlack · Nov 25, 2016

black92 said:
I'd build a stroked 351W.

408w?

i seriously considered a 408w with AFR 205 and a victor with a .6xx cam for my current fox build. easy 500+ torque on pump gas

Deceptive · Nov 25, 2016

The fact that you used the term "Real Talk" I say sell the Mustang, buy a Subaru BRZ, and go to Vaping Meets.

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KingBlack · Nov 25, 2016

Deceptive said:
The fact that you used the term "Real Talk" I say sell the Mustang, buy a Subaru BRZ, and go to Vaping Meets.

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i think he was saying that in hopes of avoiding replies like this

HEMI LOL · Nov 25, 2016

Deceptive said:
The fact that you used the term "Real Talk" I say sell the Mustang, buy a Subaru BRZ, and go to Vaping Meets.

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Deceptive · Nov 26, 2016

^^^lol

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black92 · Nov 29, 2016

KingBlack said:
408w?

i seriously considered a 408w with AFR 205 and a victor with a .6xx cam for my current fox build. easy 500+ torque on pump gas

393 or 408 should do the trick in my opinion. Only issue will be going forced induction and I don't remember what the limit is for a stock 351w block. I believe 302s were around 450 before splitting.

And speaking of 302s (non-modular) you could probably build a nasty 302 that will rev to the moon. I recall a guy with a built 302 in his classic Mustang and he was laying the smack down on a lot of people. I'll try to find the vid.

KingBlack · Nov 29, 2016

black92 said:
393 or 408 should do the trick in my opinion. Only issue will be going forced induction and I don't remember what the limit is for a stock 351w block. I believe 302s were around 450 before splitting.

And speaking of 302s (non-modular) you could probably build a nasty 302 that will rev to the moon. I recall a guy with a built 302 in his classic Mustang and he was laying the smack down on a lot of people. I'll try to find the vid.

351 block = 600 easy. 700 and its time to start worrying

yeah people don't realize that the 3 inch stroke of the 302 will let it rev to the moon. its just that the 2 bolt stock block don't like those rpm's

every time i consider a windsor vs coyote, i see this and it puts all doubts to bed

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