What to do

7998 said:

I you don't have drive or a lot of hustle than avoid any kind of entrepreneurial endevour. The trades are good right now and at 29 it's not too late to learn though the clock is ticking.
Business's are willing to train people but what they're looking for is a good attitude, a eagerness to learn, and the ability to show up on time ready to work. Basically a good work ethic.
I will take an inexperienced new guy with those 3 things over a guy with 20 years experience, who knows everything and a disgruntled attitude.

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this is one thing that has got to me lately..

I have a crap ton of oil field experience from drilling to fracking to getting oil out of the hole.. from battery to refinery. Etc..

I applied at a shit ton of places and got maybe 3 calls in a month and one wasn’t even oil.

hell my current job right now that I just got after being let go.. I literally sit here for 16 hours a day and watch trucks load product from my pick up

I was told by a couple friends I have “ too much experience “ and jobs don’t want to hire someone like that Becuase they are set in their ways..

so my question is.. what the **** is the point in gaining knowledge if companies frown on that

CompOrange04GT said:

this is one thing that has got to me lately..

I have a crap ton of oil field experience from drilling to fracking to getting oil out of the hole.. from battery to refinery. Etc..

I applied at a shit ton of places and got maybe 3 calls in a month and one wasn’t even oil.

hell my current job right now that I just got after being let go.. I literally sit here for 16 hours a day and watch trucks load product from my pick up

I was told by a couple friends I have “ too much experience “ and jobs don’t want to hire someone like that Becuase they are set in their ways..

so my question is.. what the **** is the point in gaining knowledge if companies frown on that

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I’d love to hire an experienced guy if it’s in my trade. If not, it’s not worth re-training someone.


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coposrv said:

I’d love to hire an experienced guy if it’s in my trade. If not, it’s not worth re-training someone.


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Why is that? I mean experience is good and all, but what if they have a bunch of bad habits you don’t like? Depending on what it is, I think people who don’t have much or any experience should be hired, so that you can teach them how to do things the way you want them done. Unless that’s something you don’t care about.

Well, unfortunately it looks like I’ll need another surgery so I’ll have more time to think it over :/

Sorry to hear about your health issues.

IMO, people who want to succeed in life, particularly mechanically inclined folks, should get a mechanical engineering degree. If you want to make great money, not good money beating your body up but great money, keep going to school until you are earning it.

Second would be to become a machinist and learn as much as you can about engineering and drawings/general dimensioning and tolerancing. I parlayed my machinist experience into VERY high paying engineering jobs.

Sorry for your health issues.

Definitely be realistic with your career choices. A lot of it depends on your medical issues. Are they going to come back? Are they going to get worse with time? Etc.

Working outside in the elements - or any physically demanding job - is hard enough when you're in good shape and it only gets worse as you age. I'm 34 and have been working outside for the last few years now in landscaping. It's a rough life. I'll have to look for something else in the next few years because it's just too much. Even if it paid twice (so wages are more in line with higher in trades) It's just too physically draining. You only get one body. Don't wear it out any more than you have to imo.

Edit: As most career counselors and such would say, you should contact people that do the job you are considering doing and talk to them. Ask them some questions about what they like about their job, don't like, etc. over coffee or something. See if you can job shadow them for a few days. It's really the best way to find more about a career and see if you want to pursue it.

jdcobra said:

Why is that? I mean experience is good and all, but what if they have a bunch of bad habits you don’t like? Depending on what it is, I think people who don’t have much or any experience should be hired, so that you can teach them how to do things the way you want them done. Unless that’s something you don’t care about.

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To start a guy fresh in mass is 5 years or experience and 4 years of school until he can apply for a journeyman exam. I’m trying to run a business. I want to make money not skilled craftsman. I give the craftsman a great place to work and a place he can go as far as he cares to. I don’t want to deal with training someone from scratch.


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coposrv said:

To start a guy fresh in mass is 5 years or experience and 4 years of school until he can apply for a journeyman exam. I’m trying to run a business. I want to make money not skilled craftsman. I give the craftsman a great place to work and a place he can go as far as he cares to. I don’t want to deal with training someone from scratch.


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Well if it’s something that takes that long to learn then that’s understandable.

THought about IT? A lot of the third world call centers are ****ed because of the virus and replacing people will be hard on those companies which means support will be coming back to the states!

ViciousJay said:

THought about IT? A lot of the third world call centers are ****ed because of the virus and replacing people will be hard on those companies which means support will be coming back to the states!

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I actually have believe it or not. I’d like to think I’m pretty tech savvy. My uncle does it and makes decent money.

jdcobra said:

Well if it’s something that takes that long to learn then that’s understandable.

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A good knowledgeable service electrician capable of troubleshooting and repairing in a cost efficient manner an existing system will usually have 15-20 years in the trade.


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When I was 19, I had worked a few meaningless jobs, and was in college studying computer programming. College seemed like a huge waste that wasn't going to benefit me personally. I dropped out and worked a couple part time jobs. Then a friend of mine had contractor friend that was hiring. I said f it, I have nothing better to do with my day. I quit the part time jobs and jumped on his framing crew. I loved it. It was hard work, but it was really being part of a team and getting to see what you got done at the end of the day that was rewarding. When my boss passed away, I tried sales for a while. Didn't really like going to work every day, so I went back to construction for another GC. Today I'm a GC. I'm not going to say I love being a GC as much as I loved being one of the guys every day, but you gotta grow up one day and earn some real money. That being said, just try stuff. You never know what you are going to like until you are doing it.