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The Minneapolis Police Choke an Unarmed Handcuffed Black Man to Death
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What is the solution?
Thats the $1MM question. Reforms in some cities have gone really well, while the same policies in others have gone over like a lead balloon. Inherent in the problem is that realistically its gonna take a few years, maybe even a decade, to really see the impact of changes.
That’s too long of a statement to post right now. I’ll try to find the care to post it when I get off work.
It basically surrounds the concept of being a decent human being.... something Cops tends to struggle with.
Fine, you want the punishment to fit the crime. Wait to see the what the punishment is before you start burning down cities.
Do you think I'd be in the comfort of my home waiting to be arrested had I chocked a guy out on the street, on camera? I'd be in a cell awaiting charges. Same should apply here.
Make them criminally liable for everything they do to the same extent as any citizen, no more paid leave, more psychological assessments to get the job, higher pay, further take down and de-esculation training, and only male officers who are large enough to take done most anyone safely. Along with minority self elected groups to govern police actions.
Sounds similar to a podcast I’m listening to interviewing a Port of Seattle officer named Greg Anderson who posted a video of himself sharing outrage for the behavior of LEO during the pandemic.
You’ll have to find the video yourself, it’s good, but his agency made him take it down. He’s now in the process of being separated from his post.
The interview touches directly on the point you’re making. If you care to listen, Cleared Hot podcast, Episode #129.
They just recently arrested that **** officer that killed the victim.
What a horrible, horrible situation. I just heard on the news that that **** had prior issues as a police officer. I hope that **** gets his.
***This is not a slam on police officers all over. I respect the police and the laws of America, but when you see stuff like this??!?!!?
TOTALLY UNCALLED FOR!
What a horrible, horrible situation. I just heard on the news that that **** had prior issues as a police officer. I hope that **** gets his.
***This is not a slam on police officers all over. I respect the police and the laws of America, but when you see stuff like this??!?!!?
TOTALLY UNCALLED FOR!
Depends on the circumstances. He's going to be charged. There's no doubt in my mind.
Are you willing to pay higher tax rates for a better police force? Is the city’s populace willing to? Maybe the mayhem in MPLS would influence someone to answer yes.
I think everyone would love to see the veil of blue protecting blue dissolve, but that seems difficult given the bonds that come along with teams operating in hi stress environments.
Definitely better and frequent training is needed, but that goes back to resources and money.
These "people" aren't as dumb as they come across. Sure they lack intelligence and sense when it comes to destroying property but they know where and where not to do it. Don't expect them anyplace where law abiding citizens will indiscriminately shoot.
I would personally but most others would not be willing too.
I agree, in this situation
A speedy sentencing and execution would go a long way towards restoring faith in the community at this point.
I'm sure this will get buried, but wanted to add my $.02 to the discussion. The problem is deep rooted and it's the fault of the entire department and who and how they hire.
About 10 years ago, one of my brother's friends applied to the San Jose Police Department. My brother and two other friends all got called as references for his character. by the PD. Here's the problem, three of them (not sure who else they called) all gave honest opinions. He always abused power (was working security for years prior), was racist, and was overly aggressive unnecessarily.
Well, take one guess who got hired to the SJPD despite three people voicing their concerns? He never got passed the probational period and was fired (thank god). To this day, he still won't tell people why he was fired.
My point is the departments knowingly hire shitty people. They know people are liabilities yet proceed with handing them a badge and gun. That is not OK. Situations like that lead to where we currently are.
Easy solution. There is one of two choices:
Cities will pay one way or the other. Pay more for quality people and give them training. Invest in good officers.
OR, skimp on the hiring process, letting any shitbag that applies become a police officer and slash training due to costs, and pay out the ass for lawsuits.
About 10 years ago, one of my brother's friends applied to the San Jose Police Department. My brother and two other friends all got called as references for his character. by the PD. Here's the problem, three of them (not sure who else they called) all gave honest opinions. He always abused power (was working security for years prior), was racist, and was overly aggressive unnecessarily.
Well, take one guess who got hired to the SJPD despite three people voicing their concerns? He never got passed the probational period and was fired (thank god). To this day, he still won't tell people why he was fired.
My point is the departments knowingly hire shitty people. They know people are liabilities yet proceed with handing them a badge and gun. That is not OK. Situations like that lead to where we currently are.
Easy solution. There is one of two choices:
Cities will pay one way or the other. Pay more for quality people and give them training. Invest in good officers.
OR, skimp on the hiring process, letting any shitbag that applies become a police officer and slash training due to costs, and pay out the ass for lawsuits.
Taxes do not need to be raised for this.
I work in local government on the operations side of my dept. Going on my 18th year in Sept. Want to know a not so secret? Every freaking year we have a surplus of money at years end that we rush to spend on a bunch of BS. I'm talking millions. We have 6 departments here so I'm sure its the same in the other departments too. The government can reallocate funds to give Police/Teachers raises but won't for some reason. I know they can see us spending millions the last month of the fiscal year and put 2+2 together.
MN abolished the death penalty over a hundred years ago, it’s never been reinstated...
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