The Minneapolis Police Choke an Unarmed Handcuffed Black Man to Death

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I am not saying I'm more upset with the protesters, or even the protesters at all. They have every right in this free nation to protest anything they want...peacefully.

What I have a problem with is the justification some people are making for the rioting and looting. The man's own family has stated that this is not doing any good, and yet it continues. If the people most closely hurt by this event are even saying to stop, yet people continue, then there us another reason for it than the man who was killed.

For that reason, that is what I have a problem with. People are hurting other people and businesses for reasons other than the loss of his life. They are doing to display or promote anger and hatred which is never going to solve anything. If the violent people actually cared about making things right together, they would be protesting peacefully.
I feel like pretty soon it will be considered racist to complain about the rioting.
 

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Oh yeah, that was WILD. I've been thinking about going to the day protest here, I'm just burnt out on this year already so IDK if i will or not.
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Ya I can agree that i haven't ever seen you promote violence in these situations.

My main point though was that we did the same as you. In the beginning of this thread, everyone was appalled at what happened yo George Floyd. It devolved into anger at the rioters because that is what the protest have unfortunately devolved into.

What more can we say about the police killing? The officer who did it is in custody. Yet the protesting and rioting continues.

I don't believe in mob justice. Allow the courts to give the officer his due process.

I think some still want the other 3 officers charged as well. That's neither here or there cause it's a shit show now.

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Broken, and it was stock. I'm embarrassed to say what happened lol.

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You are right. Im sure a lot of police shootings are justified. But part of the problem is that the systems are not transparent. People dont trust the system to get to the correct result because for so long the system was used to cover up the bad ones.

As for those protests, I thought a lot of the COVID grievances were kinda petty and frankly ive never understood the open carry thing, but thats their right to protest. I know I might sound like a pinko-commie on here, but Im actually pretty moderate. Happy to listen and find consensus where it is.

I want to start off by saying I respect your opinion (and 2KBlackGT). I got a little heated at first because I am really upset by those rioting. They are destroying people and property and destroying the message peaceful protestors are trying to convey.

I do need to address your viewpoint of these other protests though as you are being somewhat hypocritical.

The Covid protest were to stop these lockdowns so people don't go into financial ruin and prevent the loss of life growing exponentially. What you call petty is anything but that for those businesses and livelihoods being destroyed. The 2nd amendment defense protest are to prevent a tyrannical government from dominating the citizens and also making sure we can defend our families.

I would think you would be for both of these things given your grievance here against the police. You say the black community is tired of being killed by police. Well those suffering from the lockdown are tired of being forced into financial ruin (which often times leads to death).

Being a strong supporter of the 2nd amendment should be paramount for those in those communities who feel the government is targeting and killing them via the police. Then they can defend themselves against bad police.

I would think that you could get behind both of these things if you look at them from an unbiased perspective. Just like I can understand how minority communities feel targeted. Whether it is real or perceived remains to be seen but the perception is definitely there. I can sympathize with it and have compassion for them.
 

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Nobody is saying the rioting is good. You don't have to like the rioting. I sure as shit don't. But I also don't forget what this is all actually about. Don't like the riots and protests? Do something to support a solution to the cause.

But when yiu got guys here saying it's a Soros Conspiracy and the lock and load and crush the cockroaches, its a bad look

I have zero problems with protesters
It may not be a conspiracy but the events are being played by the media. DJT said nothing bad about protesting but called out rioting and looting.( posing in front of the church with the Bible not a smart move IMO, that’s another topic)
The rioters certainly forgot what it’s all about.


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For example, the officer who committed the murder had eighteen (18!!!!!) internal affairs complaints in his record.
Your post made me look up and learn that the officer had 19 years on. Can any police on here tell us if roughly one complain a year is a concern or normal?




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I want to start off by saying I respect your opinion (and 2KBlackGT). I got a little heated at first because I am really upset by those rioting. They are destroying people and property and destroying the message peaceful protestors are trying to convey.

I do need to address your viewpoint of these other protests though as you are being somewhat hypocritical.

The Covid protest were to stop these lockdowns so people don't go into financial ruin and prevent the loss of life growing exponentially. What you call petty is anything but that for those businesses and livelihoods being destroyed. The 2nd amendment defense protest are to prevent a tyrannical government from dominating the citizens and also making sure we can defend our families.

I would think you would be for both of these things given your grievance here against the police. You say the black community is tired of being killed by police. Well those suffering from the lockdown are tired of being forced into financial ruin (which often times leads to death).

Being a strong supporter of the 2nd amendment should be paramount for those in those communities who feel the government is targeting and killing them via the police. Then they can defend themselves against bad police.

I would think that you could get behind both of these things if you look at them from an unbiased perspective. Just like I can understand how minority communities feel targeted. Whether it is real or perceived remains to be seen but the perception is definitely there. I can sympathize with it and have compassion for them.

I respect your opinion too. I know I came in here hot and ready to rock, and for that I offer my apology. Thank you for being willing to engage in a real conversation. I get that you got heated. This is a tough topic. I know Im probably in the political minority on this site, but sitting in my echo chamber is just mental masturbation: sure it might feel good but in the end im only playing with myself. So thank you for being open to actually talking.

Those grievances you highlighted are perfectly reasonable. And I agree with those points entirely. No one should face financial ruin from the shutdowns, but when the deathtoll and infection rate is skyrocketing, does anyone really think its of crucial importance that nail salons and massage parlors be open for business? Did the media amplify that aspect of the covid protests over others? Probably. But I still think on those issues we all have more in common than what separates us. Neither of us want people to die from this disease, and neither of us want small businesses to fail. I think we can do both. And responsible gun ownership is perfectly fine with me. I dont own a gun, but thats my choice. I have no problem with lawful gun ownership. At the same time, I do not necessarily get why responsible gun ownership needs to extend to the right to openly carry an AT-4 into a Starbucks, and I really hope we can all agree that that is pushing the bounds of common sense.
 

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Your post made me look up and learn that the officer had 19 years on. Can any police on here tell us if roughly one complain a year is a concern or normal?




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Part of the problem is that most police keep files sealed. So individual officers might be able to give annecdotal responses, but theres not a uniform way to look at whats normal, how it varies by region, what exactly triggers an internal affairs investigation and the formal opening of a file, etc.
 

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