More Millennials and Gen Z'ers need to read this article.

VegasMichael said:

No.
The MSM and social media raised these kids. Told them that anything they did or thought or said was fine as long as it didn't physically harm someone else.
Parents fought back on that and were told they were cruel and abusive and were summarily shamed and would be contacted by child protective services and lawyers and every other yo-yo.
Dr. Spock raised these kids when he said parents were too hard on kids. And that parents should not be stern or discipline their kids with punishment because it was mean.

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100% the parents fault. Period

Blown 89 said:

100% the parents fault. Period

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Sorry Blown 89..... Although you do make some valid points in your original post, I have to agree more with @VegasMichael.

We as parents only have so much control. Yes, the majority of the child's life the parents set the tone, but as Vegas pointed out a lot of things considered corporal punishment when we were kids was now labeled physical or verbal abuse. And time outs and taking cell phones away doesn't do anything IMO.

Then when the kids get older they turn to peer pressure. I can tell my kids all day long drugs are bad, but when their friends are pushing drugs on them then it is "their" responsibility to make the choice. That applies to anything else they are exposed to outside of the home.

I agree with you that when that happens parents should step in and attempt to take control or guide the child, but everyone is an individual and chooses their own path in my opinion. I believe being a homo is wrong. If I teach my kids that and they grow up to be homos is that my fault?

My parents always try to take credit for me and say "they" raised me right. However, my life choices got me to where I am today. I made the sacrifices of joining the military and studying and getting a better education. Is that credited to my parents?

I'm the one who decided to street race and get speeding tickets. Has nothing to do with how they raised me, but the choices I made. So, is that credited to my parents?

I get it, parents guide and try to instill values, but ultimately it's the individuals choices that make them who they are. So, I see your point, but I don't buy that everything a child grows up to do is directly attributed to the parents, good or bad.

Besides, the circle of life tells me that the older generation always complains about the younger generation. LMAO!!!

There have always been losers and there always will be. The traits that define the loser just change with the times.

Black Gold 380R said:

Sorry Blown 89..... Although you do make some valid points in your original post, I have to agree more with @VegasMichael.

We as parents only have so much control. Yes, the majority of the child's life the parents set the tone, but as Vegas pointed out a lot of things considered corporal punishment when we were kids was now labeled physical or verbal abuse. And time outs and taking cell phones away doesn't do anything IMO.

Then when the kids get older they turn to peer pressure. I can tell my kids all day long drugs are bad, but when their friends are pushing drugs on them then it is "their" responsibility to make the choice. That applies to anything else they are exposed to outside of the home.

I agree with you that when that happens parents should step in and attempt to take control or guide the child, but everyone is an individual and chooses their own path in my opinion. I believe being a homo is wrong. If I teach my kids that and they grow up to be homos is that my fault?

My parents always try to take credit for me and say "they" raised me right. However, my life choices got me to where I am today. I made the sacrifices of joining the military and studying and getting a better education. Is that credited to my parents?

I'm the one who decided to street race and get speeding tickets. Has nothing to do with how they raised me, but the choices I made. So, is that credited to my parents?

I get it, parents guide and try to instill values, but ultimately it's the individuals choices that make them who they are. So, I see your point, but I don't buy that everything a child grows up to do is directly attributed to the parents, good or bad.

Besides, the circle of life tells me that the older generation always complains about the younger generation. LMAO!!!

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That’s what I tell my kids. We as parents can only guide you and show you right and wrong. It’s up to them to take the guidance and hope they are successful when they get older.

Rct851 said:

There have always been losers and there always will be. The traits that define the loser just change with the times.

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Very true. Unfortunately the percentage keeps growing it seems.

I’m on the tail end of the millennial generation, and to be honest it’s a little embarrassing to say that. I don’t identify with pretty much anything they stand for in their beliefs. My parents were born in the 50’s and the values of that time were applied to raising me when I was younger. The morals, values, and qualities of the older generations aren’t present in the younger ones. It’s unreal how far we’ve fallen compared to older generations. My grandfather is extremely old-school and he is always dumbfounded by the stupidity of my generation and the one after. Someone said earlier that social media is a big contributing factor to this and I agree. The brainwashing is off the friggin charts, and it doesn’t look like there’s any chance it’ll be corrected anytime soon.


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Black Gold 380R said:

Sorry Blown 89..... Although you do make some valid points in your original post, I have to agree more with @VegasMichael.

We as parents only have so much control. Yes, the majority of the child's life the parents set the tone, but as Vegas pointed out a lot of things considered corporal punishment when we were kids was now labeled physical or verbal abuse. And time outs and taking cell phones away doesn't do anything IMO.

Then when the kids get older they turn to peer pressure. I can tell my kids all day long drugs are bad, but when their friends are pushing drugs on them then it is "their" responsibility to make the choice. That applies to anything else they are exposed to outside of the home.

I agree with you that when that happens parents should step in and attempt to take control or guide the child, but everyone is an individual and chooses their own path in my opinion. I believe being a homo is wrong. If I teach my kids that and they grow up to be homos is that my fault?

My parents always try to take credit for me and say "they" raised me right. However, my life choices got me to where I am today. I made the sacrifices of joining the military and studying and getting a better education. Is that credited to my parents?

I'm the one who decided to street race and get speeding tickets. Has nothing to do with how they raised me, but the choices I made. So, is that credited to my parents?

I get it, parents guide and try to instill values, but ultimately it's the individuals choices that make them who they are. So, I see your point, but I don't buy that everything a child grows up to do is directly attributed to the parents, good or bad.

Besides, the circle of life tells me that the older generation always complains about the younger generation. LMAO!!!

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That's a typical boomer/Genx attitude....both of those generations refuse to accept responsibility for anything. Our generation willingly relinquished control of parenting to social media. Parents aren't allowed to partake in the ills of social media, expose their children to it, post their kid's entire lives online then sit back and and say, "Gee, it's ruining their lives".

Boomers and GenX'ers like to complain about everything that wrong with the world but we are the ones handing out trophies to everyone. We are the ones telling them it's ok if they want to chop their dicks off. We're the ones ignoring our children while we spend our days on social media, binge watch netflix and surf the internet. You can't spend your child's entire life ignoring them and passing the responsibility of raising them off to someone else while simultaneously shielding them from the obstacles and adversity needed to help them grow then blame someone else when they don't turn out right.

Here's a thought, put your ****ing phone down and look up at your kid every once in a while. Interact with them, teach them, steer them in the right direction. Don't give them access to the very thing you claim is ruining them. That's the very definition of bad parenting.

Social media allowed for an enhanced version of a latchkey child in the millennial generation.

Blown 89 said:

That's a typical boomer/Genx attitude....both of those generations refuse to accept responsibility for anything. Our generation willingly relinquished control of parenting to social media. Parents aren't allowed to partake in the ills of social media, expose their children to it, post their kid's entire lives online then sit back and and say, "Gee, it's ruining their lives".

Boomers and GenX'ers like to complain about everything that wrong with the world but we are the ones handing out trophies to everyone. We are the ones telling them it's ok if they want to chop their dicks off. We're the ones ignoring our children while we spend our days on social media, binge watch netflix and surf the internet. You can't spend your child's entire life ignoring them and passing the responsibility of raising them off to someone else while simultaneously shielding them from the obstacles and adversity needed to help them grow then blame someone else when they don't turn out right.

Here's a thought, put your ****ing phone down and look up at your kid every once in a while. Interact with them, teach them, steer them in the right direction. Don't give them access to the very thing you claim is ruining them. That's the very definition of bad parenting.

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Again, as I said to your first post, you make valid points. And I do agree with a lot of what you said here as a whole, but it wasn't like that in my house.

My step kids (because I didn't live with my biological kids) had rules. I'm not a phone monger, so I did not let them play on their phones when it was family time. No one, including me and my wife, were allowed to bring their phone to the dinner table. And yes, we ate as a family. When they were finished eating we would talk about things (i.e. school, our day, where to go on family vacation, etc.). If they had nothing left to add they had to ask to be excused from the table. So, my step kids were not ignored.

No one in my house was told it's okay to be gay or trans or whatever the hell they thought they could identify as. Now once they became adults and paid their own bills that would be on them, but none of my kids are gay, that I know of. They live out of town now, so I wouldn't know what they do when I'm not around anyway.

I think you are speaking in terms of society as a whole and that's fine. As I said, I agree with you for the most part, but not all Gen X'ers stood by and watched the decay of their family values and did nothing. And as mentioned, once the kids become adults it's up to them if they want to chop things off or dress up in the opposite genders clothes. I have no control over that, other than to B!T(# about it because I don't believe in those values or that way of life.

I'm a millennial only because the calendar says so. I am basically a Gen-xer except that I'm not constantly bitching about the younger generations. I couldn't care less what they do or say on social media because I'm not on any of those platforms anyway, save for SVTP.