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<blockquote data-quote="ANGREY" data-source="post: 15736105" data-attributes="member: 188865"><p>So much to say here.</p><p></p><p>1) Car manufacturers have continually improved their products. It's called obsolescence and until a particular product reaches "collector" or "classic" status, depreciation is simply a function of economics. Less demand (or shifting demand) results in lower prices. It's inescapable if we follow the traditional path that's been going on for the past 3 decades. </p><p></p><p>2) The ONLY thing that will save a product that's been surpassed is VALUE. So when the GT500 comes out and IF it seeks to compete with the likes of the ZL1 (which just ran nearly 2 seconds faster in the Motor Trend best driver's competition than the 350R did last year), then the only thing that will save the value of the R from plummeting is the price point. MOST consumers, whether overtly or subconsciously follow the concept of VALUE so if the GT500 is an overall improvement in the same/similar market segment, the only thing that will protect R's is if the 500 is not in the same price segment. </p><p></p><p>Why would you buy a used Samsung 9k series 70" for $4k if you can get a new and improved version for the same/similar price? You wouldn't. Period. However, if the new and improved version is significantly higher, then the obsolete or inferior product will maintain its VALUE longer and the slide in market price will be less pronounced.</p><p></p><p>3) Why do people obsess about this stuff anyway? Just buy a product for what you think is a good value and enjoy it. If a better product comes along, make your decision then. I'm not devoid of trying to get the most for my money or making smart decisions, but I'm also not constantly haunted and aggravated with buyer's remorse or wondering whether I made the right decision or whether or not I could have held out or should have bought something else. </p><p></p><p>4) I will say that we're on the verge of a very drastic change in this continual improvement curve we've seen from Detroit and foreign auto makers. In fact, DRASTIC doesn't even begin to describe it.</p><p></p><p>Auto insurance companies are currently shitting bricks because they know that in 20 (maybe less) years, the auto insurance industry is going to be decimated. Self driving cars ARE the future and we're less than a generation away from the likes of Uber/Lyft being driverless cars. Combined with urbanization, the mob of people who clamor for "safety" over freedom, the green tree huggers and their incessant lobbying for alternative/green transportation options, I think anyone and everyone should scoop up the BIGGEST combustion engine vehicle they possibly can RIGHT now. The engines that Detroit are making are the last of the largest displacement they're ever going to make. Emissions are squeezing each year and we paid the "gas guzzler" tax on the 350s but as we progress, between the "disruptive technology" of fully electric vehicles and legal mandates for fleet fuel efficiency, the days of big engines have one foot in the grave.</p><p></p><p>This proliferation of driverless and electric vehicles could eventually trump everything and make just about any late model performance combustion engine car simply go up in value.</p><p></p><p>If you don't think this is coming, just pay attention. You can go on youtube and watch slightly modified Teslas absolutely kill drag cars CONSISTENTLY and easily. The price and tech of electric cars are only going to improve on both fronts and given that the power output of e cars is theoretically unlimited, its only a matter of time before we see products that are better than current performance cars with an e motor. So that last bit might help some of you rest easier knowing that whatever you buy, it's going to be a collector's item in the not too distant future.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ANGREY, post: 15736105, member: 188865"] So much to say here. 1) Car manufacturers have continually improved their products. It's called obsolescence and until a particular product reaches "collector" or "classic" status, depreciation is simply a function of economics. Less demand (or shifting demand) results in lower prices. It's inescapable if we follow the traditional path that's been going on for the past 3 decades. 2) The ONLY thing that will save a product that's been surpassed is VALUE. So when the GT500 comes out and IF it seeks to compete with the likes of the ZL1 (which just ran nearly 2 seconds faster in the Motor Trend best driver's competition than the 350R did last year), then the only thing that will save the value of the R from plummeting is the price point. MOST consumers, whether overtly or subconsciously follow the concept of VALUE so if the GT500 is an overall improvement in the same/similar market segment, the only thing that will protect R's is if the 500 is not in the same price segment. Why would you buy a used Samsung 9k series 70" for $4k if you can get a new and improved version for the same/similar price? You wouldn't. Period. However, if the new and improved version is significantly higher, then the obsolete or inferior product will maintain its VALUE longer and the slide in market price will be less pronounced. 3) Why do people obsess about this stuff anyway? Just buy a product for what you think is a good value and enjoy it. If a better product comes along, make your decision then. I'm not devoid of trying to get the most for my money or making smart decisions, but I'm also not constantly haunted and aggravated with buyer's remorse or wondering whether I made the right decision or whether or not I could have held out or should have bought something else. 4) I will say that we're on the verge of a very drastic change in this continual improvement curve we've seen from Detroit and foreign auto makers. In fact, DRASTIC doesn't even begin to describe it. Auto insurance companies are currently shitting bricks because they know that in 20 (maybe less) years, the auto insurance industry is going to be decimated. Self driving cars ARE the future and we're less than a generation away from the likes of Uber/Lyft being driverless cars. Combined with urbanization, the mob of people who clamor for "safety" over freedom, the green tree huggers and their incessant lobbying for alternative/green transportation options, I think anyone and everyone should scoop up the BIGGEST combustion engine vehicle they possibly can RIGHT now. The engines that Detroit are making are the last of the largest displacement they're ever going to make. Emissions are squeezing each year and we paid the "gas guzzler" tax on the 350s but as we progress, between the "disruptive technology" of fully electric vehicles and legal mandates for fleet fuel efficiency, the days of big engines have one foot in the grave. This proliferation of driverless and electric vehicles could eventually trump everything and make just about any late model performance combustion engine car simply go up in value. If you don't think this is coming, just pay attention. You can go on youtube and watch slightly modified Teslas absolutely kill drag cars CONSISTENTLY and easily. The price and tech of electric cars are only going to improve on both fronts and given that the power output of e cars is theoretically unlimited, its only a matter of time before we see products that are better than current performance cars with an e motor. So that last bit might help some of you rest easier knowing that whatever you buy, it's going to be a collector's item in the not too distant future. [/QUOTE]
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