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01 cobra vs 2000 camaro SS? who do you think would win
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<blockquote data-quote="tt335ci03cobra" data-source="post: 12670981" data-attributes="member: 68944"><p>Cammers barely fit in mustangs man, lighten up. That's my main talking point. </p><p></p><p>Yes, a coyote is lighter, $7-8k, but lighter than a run of the mill $500-1500 used 4.6 or $2500 teksid. </p><p></p><p>A teksid would also be 90lbs lighter so 475~500lbs. A coyote is probably lighter still because of newer tech/lighter materials. If you don't want ac, cooling fan, power steering, etc then ya it'll weigh even less but be a useless car. You could probably get a teksid 4.6 down to 475lbs, maybe even 455lbs with a sheet metal intake and some fab work with abs plastic/etc for the inlet. Shorty headers vs cast manifolds is probably another 10-20#'s saved.</p><p></p><p>I love 4v heads, I wasn't bashing them, but for a tiny engine bay like an s2k, miata, or fd, I wouldn't even bother trying to fit a cammer, such a nightmare especially since probably no one makes a kmember/cradle to fit one and honestly I don't know how it could fit when an ls1 barely fits.</p><p></p><p><img src="http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/28/aqyne6ur.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>Unless you didn't want a brake booster or power steering, I don't know how you could fit a cammer.</p><p></p><p>Here's an fd, good luck even in this engine bay</p><p></p><p><img src="http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/28/7a6yzemy.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>To me, dohc is awesome for a boosted application, especially turbo. So much control. Late model lsany and lt1's ohv are great for light, compact huge na power. </p><p></p><p>These tiny cars have factory motors that weigh 185-275lbs if that, throwing in a 400# motor will make them very nose heavy. Adding another 50-100+ on top of that, for a smaller displacement motor with less low end torque, more weight high up, and a design that is a pita to wedge into the engine bay would be a moot proposition to me.</p><p></p><p>I'd rather throw a wild coyote build (turbo, 5-10psi) in a fairline or 70's lincoln cruiser or an na coyote in an original restomod 70 mustang, faux boss 302 in a way without devaluating an actual boss.. Maybe even an na 5.8 2013 cobra mill with aggressive cams, short runner, and 550hp+ in a restomod 70 stang. </p><p></p><p>My $.02</p><p></p><p>I love coyotes and wanna build one to replace my 5.4 when it lets go in years to come but they don't work well IMHO with tiny cars.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tt335ci03cobra, post: 12670981, member: 68944"] Cammers barely fit in mustangs man, lighten up. That's my main talking point. Yes, a coyote is lighter, $7-8k, but lighter than a run of the mill $500-1500 used 4.6 or $2500 teksid. A teksid would also be 90lbs lighter so 475~500lbs. A coyote is probably lighter still because of newer tech/lighter materials. If you don't want ac, cooling fan, power steering, etc then ya it'll weigh even less but be a useless car. You could probably get a teksid 4.6 down to 475lbs, maybe even 455lbs with a sheet metal intake and some fab work with abs plastic/etc for the inlet. Shorty headers vs cast manifolds is probably another 10-20#'s saved. I love 4v heads, I wasn't bashing them, but for a tiny engine bay like an s2k, miata, or fd, I wouldn't even bother trying to fit a cammer, such a nightmare especially since probably no one makes a kmember/cradle to fit one and honestly I don't know how it could fit when an ls1 barely fits. [IMG]http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/28/aqyne6ur.jpg[/IMG] Unless you didn't want a brake booster or power steering, I don't know how you could fit a cammer. Here's an fd, good luck even in this engine bay [IMG]http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/28/7a6yzemy.jpg[/IMG] To me, dohc is awesome for a boosted application, especially turbo. So much control. Late model lsany and lt1's ohv are great for light, compact huge na power. These tiny cars have factory motors that weigh 185-275lbs if that, throwing in a 400# motor will make them very nose heavy. Adding another 50-100+ on top of that, for a smaller displacement motor with less low end torque, more weight high up, and a design that is a pita to wedge into the engine bay would be a moot proposition to me. I'd rather throw a wild coyote build (turbo, 5-10psi) in a fairline or 70's lincoln cruiser or an na coyote in an original restomod 70 mustang, faux boss 302 in a way without devaluating an actual boss.. Maybe even an na 5.8 2013 cobra mill with aggressive cams, short runner, and 550hp+ in a restomod 70 stang. My $.02 I love coyotes and wanna build one to replace my 5.4 when it lets go in years to come but they don't work well IMHO with tiny cars. [/QUOTE]
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