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2020+ Shelby GT500 Mustang
10.8@127mph - 4200lbs race weight
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<blockquote data-quote="Cman01" data-source="post: 16135665" data-attributes="member: 138028"><p>In my eyes, any car approaching 35-3600lbs. and over deserve porker status. A V6 S197 car is actually around 3500+lbs (checked on several sites).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Stock 03 Cobra weighs a little over your weight on your car and yes a foxbody would be a slug to drive if they approached 2 tons but I guess it all depends on how the weight was distributed on the chassis and engine hp amount.</p><p></p><p>I agree, a hefty car would be easier to drive at high speeds given enough hp, and limited cornering force ALA proper suspension geometry and aero are present but physics is physics. A heavy car will not in most cases out handle a light car all else being equal. Having mag shocks, larger sway bars and more aggressive aero will counter that to some degree but all else being equal I'll take a lighter weight car any day of the week over a heavier car.</p><p></p><p>I also question the engineering into the high speed driveability of most American/Japanese cars, since in our market we have speed limits most cars are not going to see anything north of 100+mph in the real world (unless you break the law and speed or are on a track). The cars that do great on high speed cruising/stability are mostly Euro cars, the best cars for blasting down the German autobahn in my eyes are S class Mercedes, BMW 5/8 series (+M cars) and Porsches (911 gets my vote). American car makers don't put in the time and engineering costs to fine tune high speed driveability/stability like the German/Euro makes do.</p><p></p><p>I'm going to correct you on a couple of things...…………..I believe we are talking stock vehicles here so basically a Miata doesn't hit 150 stock they show a top speed of around 130mph, also a C5 Z06 has a top speed of around 170-175mph so they don't hit 190mph. Early C5 vettes would suck out their door windows at around 125mph, when GM discovered this through owners complaining a window seal clip was added to each door so it wouldn't happen. I find it funny during their "thorough" high speed testing this didn't happen.</p><p></p><p>2 other things come to mind for discussion: power/weight ratio and weight distribution. I'll get into that one tomorrow (this post is already too long LOL).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cman01, post: 16135665, member: 138028"] In my eyes, any car approaching 35-3600lbs. and over deserve porker status. A V6 S197 car is actually around 3500+lbs (checked on several sites). Stock 03 Cobra weighs a little over your weight on your car and yes a foxbody would be a slug to drive if they approached 2 tons but I guess it all depends on how the weight was distributed on the chassis and engine hp amount. I agree, a hefty car would be easier to drive at high speeds given enough hp, and limited cornering force ALA proper suspension geometry and aero are present but physics is physics. A heavy car will not in most cases out handle a light car all else being equal. Having mag shocks, larger sway bars and more aggressive aero will counter that to some degree but all else being equal I'll take a lighter weight car any day of the week over a heavier car. I also question the engineering into the high speed driveability of most American/Japanese cars, since in our market we have speed limits most cars are not going to see anything north of 100+mph in the real world (unless you break the law and speed or are on a track). The cars that do great on high speed cruising/stability are mostly Euro cars, the best cars for blasting down the German autobahn in my eyes are S class Mercedes, BMW 5/8 series (+M cars) and Porsches (911 gets my vote). American car makers don't put in the time and engineering costs to fine tune high speed driveability/stability like the German/Euro makes do. I'm going to correct you on a couple of things...…………..I believe we are talking stock vehicles here so basically a Miata doesn't hit 150 stock they show a top speed of around 130mph, also a C5 Z06 has a top speed of around 170-175mph so they don't hit 190mph. Early C5 vettes would suck out their door windows at around 125mph, when GM discovered this through owners complaining a window seal clip was added to each door so it wouldn't happen. I find it funny during their "thorough" high speed testing this didn't happen. 2 other things come to mind for discussion: power/weight ratio and weight distribution. I'll get into that one tomorrow (this post is already too long LOL). [/QUOTE]
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